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06/15/2014 - 08:56 AM
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The Dispute Over the Emperor's Beard

Uncommented Scents No. 42

I still believe that the two most beautiful vetiver fragrances are the classics from Carven (1957) and Guerlain (1959), which are actually the first two well-known and successful vetiver scents on the market in this order. The current formulation from Carven is less successful, while Guerlain's is overall better, although it has had a very scratchy top note for several years now. The two original compositions were significantly rounder; indeed, the pinnacle of all vetiver compositions.

Of course, I am right in this assumption, as I would never allow other opinions to hold sway, just like all the other vetiver enthusiasts in the world who have surely found their own favorite scent in the realm of vetiver.

When I expand the range of vetiver-containing fragrances, my favorite scent Timbuktu from L'Artisan naturally also belongs to the vetiver scents, but it has such a distorted tone, such a unique note, that one could argue whether it can still be considered a vetiver scent in the narrower sense.

In general: Disputing. The debate over the emperor's beard, which vetiver scent is truly the best, most beautiful, most distinctive, most masculine, most feminine (there are also those) or the one with the best price-performance ratio, is fought anew here and elsewhere every year. Guerlain's Vetiver is exalted to the heavens or condemned; Timbuktu is alternately criticized as boring or praised as a stroke of genius.

I personally don't care at all. Because I know best which vetiver scent is the most beautiful. This is of little interest to you out there, but if you want to know which (besides Timbuktu, of course) is currently ONE of the most beautiful vetiver scents on the market for me, then listen closely now:

It is a vetiver scent from this incredible, truly fabulous line of affordable Monotheme fragrances, which was kindly provided to me in the form of a sample by the friendly DuftDoktor without a prescription in exchange. Thank you very much for that!

I would hardly have thought to test this scent myself, as whenever I read Bourbon, I suspect a vanilla-laden monstrosity in the base or heart note that I really dislike. Vanilla is nice and all, but scents and perfumers that overdo it can keep it. I don’t want to smell like grandma's crumble or apple pie (which I have always loved: for eating, mind you). All this does not exclude a pinch of vanilla at all (what would Shalimar be without this substance) and moreover, vanilla does not appear in this specific case at all, - but more on that later.

Back to Monotheme's Vetiver Bourbon. What immediately stands out: Vetiver Bourbon smells clear and distinctly of vetiver (even if other fresh components are also recognizable: lemon, which pleases me, bergamot oil, which I appreciate in scents and in tea), but so gentle and subtle that really no one (not even ladies who usually recoil at vetiver like the princess at the pea) could object to it. The balance between earthy-bitter-sour and gentle is so successful here that Monotheme even leaves the niche fragrance competitor Diptyque with its Vetyverio behind, which I previously considered the most successful soft vetiver on the market.

According to my research, the designation Vetiver Bourbon is not a combination of vetiver and bourbon vanilla, but rather a special variety of vetiver grass or oil that contains this round bourbon note, thus being finer and less earthy in scent.

Specifically, it can be described that the best quality of vetiver oil is produced in Réunion, followed by Haiti and Java. However, the oil from Réunion is referred to as Vetiver Bourbon due to its high quality. This could well have been used in Monotheme's Vetiver, even if it is not mentioned in the fragrance notes, but simply referred to as vetiver.

Since the scent fades incredibly round and soft, I am inclined to believe the manufacturer that the highly controversial, but for me extremely beloved oak moss is indeed found in the base and not a synthetic substitute. Sandalwood can also be discernibly sensed; however, one must know it through the manufacturer's information, as it is hardly recognizable, remaining subtle in the background. Sandalwood-heavy scents are usually too soft and creamy for my taste. This is not the case here at all. Everything remains light and bright, subtle and soft, with an underlying masculine-bitter note centered around vetiver; ultimately, however, it is also a unisex scent.

The longevity is good; I probably don’t need to say a word more about the wonderful shape of the bottle. It is classic and beautiful.

For me, the dispute over the emperor's beard is settled: if not Timbuktu (or Guerlain and Carven in the old formula), then Monotheme Vetiver Bourbon.

But as it is with the emperor's beard and one of the possible origins of this saying: As the German historian Johannes Fried explains in his latest work on Charlemagne, it is really not possible to say with certainty which beard the emperor actually wore before or after the year 800. It was probably not a full beard. What is certain is that he died in 814 and we may celebrate his 1200th death anniversary this year. And that Monotheme Vetiver Bourbon is the most beautiful of all vetiver scents. Really!
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32 Comments
MairuwaMairuwa 2 years ago
A lovely review! In my opinion, it's nicer than the scent itself - but to argue about that would be like quarreling over the emperor's beard... Just a word about Bourbon Vetiver: It's not named that because it has a vanilla note, but because it comes from the Bourbon vanilla of the island of La Réunion. A historical name for the island is "Île Bourbon," named by French colonizers after the Bourbon family. Among the many vetiver varieties, each with its own unique character based on geographic origin, the one from Réunion/Île Bourbon is considered one of the best, alongside the one from Haiti (of course, that's a matter of taste). Whether it really is the original in the bottle here is something you can believe or doubt.
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FloydFloyd 6 years ago
Outstanding description!
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JackoJacko 6 years ago
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>>>>...you shouldn't always compare Vetiver with the Guerlains, Lubins, etc. I'm rating the Monotheme better now; I really like it a lot. It seems you can only get it online in Italy, which is a shame because I would love to find it in drugstores or health food stores here.
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JackoJacko 6 years ago
During a re-test today, I came across this excellent comment ;) Yes, the Vetiver Bourbon is indeed better than I thought. In my opinion, it behaves similarly to the original Vetiver from Creed. It's not your typical harsh representative of its kind, but plays a completely different melody with its gentle vetiver leaf. The Vetiver Bourbon is probably a special variety from Réunion, maybe the true Vetiver? Who knows... anyway, it's a delight if you >>>>
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VerbenaVerbena 6 years ago
I wouldn't dream of arguing about the emperor's beard. What's the point? As empress, I wear "Sycomore." :P But yes, the Monotheme is nice too. Peace. :)
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CravacheCravache 8 years ago
During my grocery shopping today, I discovered this scent at the local second-choice supermarket (as a Swiss, you’re either a Migros kid or a Coop kid). The "Bourbon" almost kept me from trying it... What a lovely, rounded early summer vetiver scent. And what an incredibly successful comment on the fragrance!
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CouchlockCouchlock 8 years ago
I like your irony!
At that price, it’s probably going to be a blind buy...
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FittleworthFittleworth 9 years ago
I never would have guessed that I would become a vetiver fan... but now it has happened. This freshness, this coolness... THIS is the scent I've been searching for all along!
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OlorosoOloroso 11 years ago
Thanks for this comment, which led to a blind buy that I don't regret after a very long time. A truly beautiful vetiver - and perhaps indeed the best in its family, but definitely the best in its price range!
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FittleworthFittleworth 11 years ago
Excellent comment! Vetiver trophy!
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FlorblancaFlorblanca 11 years ago
The topic is done for me due to lack of a beard! But I really like your scent descriptions; they’re very insightful. I also like the shape of the bottle, by the way. ;))
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BlauemausBlauemaus 11 years ago
I've already mourned the unexpected loss of the Monothemes on eBay today. :-(((
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AuraAura 11 years ago
For posterity, I’ll note: 2014 is the year when full beards are in style for young men. These gentlemen shouldn’t smell like apple pie, but with vetiver, a man can never go wrong. Women, however, should skip both.
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PaloneraPalonera 11 years ago
The little dove predicts that the second and last eBay seller will soon have to deal with the complete sell-out of their Monotheme stock as well...
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RivegaucheRivegauche 11 years ago
Everyone always unjustly forgets the magnificent Vetyver by Givenchy, come on... but let's not start a fight ;-) As always, a great comment about the truly rare Vetiver from the former royal Île Bourbon.
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Jpg153Jpg153 11 years ago
Despite Guerlain (original), I haven't given up on Vetiver. Even though the ladies complain a lot about Malizia and Borsalino CI :-)
I'll add it to my watchlist.
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KaschimaKaschima 11 years ago
Sounds incredibly delicious, especially with sandalwood and oakmoss in the base AND coriander in the top note, hmmm...? Would it really be feminine? Makes-me-curious trophy :))
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ShamisShamis 11 years ago
My interest in monotheme scents is further heightened, even if it doesn't necessarily have to be vetiver - no point in arguing! :D
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IngerInger 11 years ago
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You've convinced Inger too!!
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DobbsDobbs 11 years ago
I really like vetiver, and since I trust you completely, I'm adding this guy straight to my wishlist :o)
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ZoraZora 11 years ago
Since I already know Timbuktu but can't quite share the enthusiasm, I would totally agree with your last sentence based on your great description and the scent notes above, and I'd love to test the fragrance.
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TaurusTaurus 11 years ago
Really a great suggestion: and apparently with good longevity too! Kudos :-)
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0815abc0815abc 11 years ago
The sun must have shot into your (writing) pen! I've never read such a great comment full of exuberance and mischief from you, Rotenteppichausroll! Hats off and a bow!
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KiengiraKiengira 11 years ago
Coeur de Vétiver Sacré!!! For me, it's number 1 right now! Seriously! But you've got me curious again! P!
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NaaaseNaaase 11 years ago
A big shoutout for the journey through the world of Vétivers.
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DuftJunkieDuftJunkie 11 years ago
You could also give Malizia Vetyver a try. It's even cheaper and is said to be a good "vetiver."
I don't know either of them, but I'm more into the robust, dry vetivers (Carven and Encre Noir).
Kudos for the research!
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MeggiMeggi 11 years ago
That sounds great, and I’ll add it to my list. Also, nice comment, but I disagree on one point...
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MeggiMeggi 11 years ago
That sounds great, and I'll add it to my list. Also, nice comment, but I have a different opinion on one point...
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PlutoPluto 11 years ago
Do I even know vetiver scents? *thinking* I guess it's time to give them a try. I'm really a country bumpkin when it comes to men's fragrances.
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GaukeleyaGaukeleya 11 years ago
Hehe, I'm being a bit cheeky and joining Ergoproxy ;-) Guerlain's Vetiver was the reason I avoided vetiver for years *ducks* But now I'm cautiously approaching the topic... And this one doesn't sound too bad at all...
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LuckyDogLuckyDog 11 years ago
The first sentence is enough for a trophy: "...the two most beautiful vetiver fragrances ever, the classics from Carven (1957) and Guerlain (1959)..."
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ErgoproxyErgoproxy 11 years ago
I'm just thinking about whether to disagree with you, just for fun and because I can't stand the Guerlain on me... But actually, I don't feel like arguing; I'll leave that to others. ;):))
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