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Cuir Mandarine by David Jourquin

Cuir Mandarine 2011

Yatagan
04/01/2016 - 02:21 PM
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Love and Hate Are Close Together: A Plea for a Second Chance

I am now cautious when I seem to have significant problems with a fragrance from the very first moment. It is not uncommon for me to later integrate these very fragrances into my collection.

What is not meant here by the shift from antipathy to sympathy is the aversion to certain smells and ingredients. That usually remains with us.
I do not like jasmine. Jasmine almost always smells like carrion to me. I do not like tonka bean. It reminds me of a certain generation of fragrances that I have never liked and that seem too sweet and overloaded to me. I actually do not like oud anymore. I have smelled it so often in recent years that I can no longer count the oud-rose combinations and I react with boredom.

What is meant here instead is a total composition that does not appeal to me at first glance (bad metaphor here, I know), but develops more and more charm during subsequent tests and longer wear. By now, I have a specific, warning feeling when such a change might occur. I felt the same way about Cuir Mandarine.

It started with me receiving a sample, spraying the fragrance with anticipation, and immediately turning away in irritation: a bit too much patchouli, the bitter-fruity mandarin in a peculiar tension with the earthy base, and the tobacco-leather note reminded me, to my chagrin, of a pipe tobacco I used as a young man and that did not agree with me at all. Nevertheless: I would like to smoke a pipe (again) sometime, but I find it aesthetically inappropriate, unhealthy, and unsuitable for my age. That is only acceptable after 50. After all, I will be there soon.

Thoughtfully, I set Cuir Mandarine aside, without integrating it into my sample collection (it would have been lost among 1400 other samples) and without putting it in my reject pile. Instead, I stored it separately in a cabinet where I keep samples that need retesting and to which I feel ambivalent.

In the case of Cuir Mandarine, by the way, tests No. 2, No. 3, and No. 4 followed. The second-to-last test run then brought new results. Suddenly, I liked the fragrance. It was upgraded from a poor rating to 8.0 and now to 9.0. It has since landed on my wish list; a purchase is planned.

It would be interesting to analyze why the impressions described above (too much patchouli in the base, etc.) did not hold but instead merged into a new, larger whole, almost in the sense of a dialectic of fragrance, where the thesis and antithesis of the first and subsequent impressions connect to form a synthesis.

My hypotheses on this are as follows:

Actually (deep down inside), I like patchouli, as I have always had an affinity for the hippie and festival culture of the 70s (I grew up in the 70s). Why not a little more of it?

I like to eat mandarins, I like their smell, and I like their color (childhood, Christmas). Why shouldn’t I enjoy the contrast of bitter-sweet fruit (thesis) and the darkness of patchouli and tobacco (antithesis) (synthesis)?

I have always wanted to smoke a pipe, like its smell, but forbid myself to use it. Why not step out of my comfort zone and pull out my father-in-law's pipe set and light a pipe in the summer along with a glass of whiskey?

All these suppressed desires connect here to form a new, larger whole that I want.

Perhaps it is what I mentioned above: Cuir Mandarine did not repel me, but rather irritated me. Irritation is an occasion for confrontation. A learning process can begin.

The plea for a second chance promised in the headline is therefore directed not only at me but also at all those who tend to make quick judgments. Reconsider your opinion at the end of the day. Perhaps it won’t matter to you tomorrow.
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24 Comments
FloydFloyd 2 years ago
I'm surprised you didn't mention the lavender, which stands out to me in the top notes, herbal-ethereal. Otherwise, I totally get your initial dislike, which I completely share, but for me, it just doesn't lean towards the positive side ;-)
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CouchlockCouchlock 7 years ago
I just read the comment after being really impressed by **Cuir Tabac**. This scent seems to go in a similar direction... thanks for the fragrance description and your thoughts on reinterpretations of scents!
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CouchlockCouchlock 7 years ago
With music, it's often the things that reveal themselves to me only after multiple listens that bring me the most joy and stay with me for a lifetime. With fragrances, that's rarer, usually only after a retest after a long time... as you mentioned, certain scent notes just don’t work.
More patchouli? A definite yes! Pipe smoking? Definitely aesthetic! It takes a lot of time to learn how to smoke a pipe so that the flavor fully unfolds...
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GarconGarcon 7 years ago
Does anyone know if the Opera Cuir Mandarine from the OPERA COLLECTION is a different scent?
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MokkaMokka 8 years ago
Irritation here too. Today is the second test. I'm not as disturbed anymore, but I'm still far from feeling good. *sigh*
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ClarissaClarissa 9 years ago
It doesn't always have to be love at first sight.....! Often, it's worth giving things and of course people a second chance, and sometimes friendships for life develop from that!
As always, a very enjoyable comment!
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FittleworthFittleworth 9 years ago
Excellent, very informative comment! I'll leave a little pouch of pipe tobacco here...
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SolinaSolina 9 years ago
Great comment on an interesting scent - it combines wonderful notes of patchouli, pipe tobacco, and leather, with a freshness from the mandarin. I was already impressed by it last year - thank you!
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MandelmausMandelmaus 9 years ago
What an intelligent and beautiful comment :D
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ParfumAholicParfumAholic 9 years ago
A lot of this can be applied to other areas of life as well. But when it comes to fragrances, I had to learn that they often aren't what they seem at first. Thanks for the great comment!
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Jpg153Jpg153 9 years ago
That's true. But the other way around as well... after using it several times, my love for it has definitely cooled down... and it's gone now :-))
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CravacheCravache 9 years ago
The pipe smells much better than it tastes. I light one up once a year - just to confirm that again. With many scents, I only found my favorites after the 3rd or 4th test, but with pipe tobacco, I still haven't found it even after about the 20th try (which I'm fine with).
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PaloneraPalonera 9 years ago
So true. I've been preaching for ages in favor of a 2nd, 3rd, sometimes even a 4th chance - the trash can for tossing things out isn't going anywhere, ;-). And: A former boss of mine smoked a pipe in his early 30s, and it suited him perfectly - so give it a try!
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MrWhiteMrWhite 9 years ago
I think it's great when people really think through their perfume purchases and consider a scent from as many angles as possible. Just buying it is easy :-)
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OrmeliOrmeli 9 years ago
So many nice things; the described expectations lead you down a completely different path... and then it suddenly smells completely unexpected :-)
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RoMi58RoMi58 9 years ago
I can totally relate to the idea of a second chance. I had a similar experience with BOM Incense (a completely different scent…). I think it can be the same with good music or visual art, where attraction grows through engagement.
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ErgreifendErgreifend 9 years ago
One should always think it over! No matter what. Good comment!
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0815abc0815abc 9 years ago
That's definitely worth a trophy from a philosophical standpoint!
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TaurusTaurus 9 years ago
Maybe you'll become a big patchouli fan after all ;-)
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ZoraZora 9 years ago
I think I need to test this for my better half; I love pipe tobacco, and since he doesn't smoke... voila, ideal :). Instantly added to my wishlist.
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ShamisShamis 9 years ago
Yes, I know that. Sometimes I'm just thrown off by a completely wrong impression I had of the scent beforehand (because of the notes, comments, even the bottle...) or by a combination I'm not familiar with at all. It's both unsettling and intriguing at the same time.
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MeggiMeggi 9 years ago
It takes time for that alone because something has to be freed up from the mortgage before the purchase can happen.
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SeeroseSeerose 9 years ago
Definitely not a scent for me. But the whole real pipe smoking thing really got on my nerves with my husband at some point...and the stained teeth, you might want to stick with a scent like that.
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ErgoproxyErgoproxy 9 years ago
I liked it from the start, but I know what you mean. I often revisit scents after a while, and sometimes I have to revise my initial opinion. My example is Tam Dao. At first, it was a flop, now it's a top! :)
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