Exclusive Blend - Le Gantier d'Iran by Jousset Parfums

Exclusive Blend - Le Gantier d'Iran 2021

Gold
10/31/2021 - 11:21 AM
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A Nightmare of Synthetic Saffron

Saffron.
Let's brainstorm. What do you think of?
The nursery rhyme? Saffron makes the cake gel...? Or are you thinking of paella?
I can think of a Pakistani student who served me a really huge amount of "saffron" a few years ago. Probably 300 grams. In a cellophane bag. "Guaranteed real saffron" from the homeland. Her words.
I wondered at first about the red color. And about the fact that no smell emanated from the bag, even after opening it. Upon closer examination, the saffron turned out to be a plastic thread mixture. Yes, you read correctly, it was plastic threads. Of course, I disposed of them correctly in the yellow bag.
A kilogram of saffron threads costs between 2,000 and 7,000 euros, depending on the quality.
100.000 blossoms have to be harvested by hand for one kilo. 90% of the worldwide production comes from Iran. There are about 150,000 people in the cultivation and harvest of saffron employed.
Why is this interesting for us in the context of a perfume review?
Well, I would like to state - once and for all - that there is almost no natural saffron in perfume production. Such a perfume would be prohibitively expensive! (And would stain extremely orange everywhere... ).
What is usually called "saffron" in perfumes is almost always synthetic. Mostly it is "Safraleine", a molecule made by Givaudan, which has been on the market since 2004. "Safranal" extracted from real saffron, has been very severely restricted by the IFRA .
Silvaine Délacourte writes about it:
"Natural saffron is not allowed in perfumery because it contains safranol, a component that causes allergies. Safraleine by Givaudan is a synthetic molecule. "

Is anyone surprised by this now? I suspect most perfume lovers know that there is no real saffron in the fragrances that smell so spicy and bitter.
Some time ago I even sent a small bag of real Iranian saffron to a Bavarian city (sorry, Hasi, that it was only such a small amount, but you know, the stuff is expensive...), because I really wanted my friend to get an idea of how "the real thing" smells.
There's no way saffron from Iran smells like the stuff advertised here for marketing purposes in the fragrance "The Glove Maker from Iran."
What kind of images go through your head?
Or what kind of BIlder should come to mind?
An oriental bazaar, preferably the one in Isfahan. In a corner of his shop sits a man with a well-cut face, his deep brown almond-shaped eyes resting on his work, a piece of tanned leather he is shaping into gloves. The scent of saffron, aromatic and incomparable, THE scent of our land, rises, for beside the man is a small bowl of Shole Sard, a saffron rice pudding....
Ah, comme je suis romantique, toi aussi, Monsieur Le Gantier?

I didn't meet a glove maker in all of Isfahan, but surely Jimmy Bodin has been there longer than I have and knows his stuff better....

When I tested the fragrance a few days ago, I was on a very unromantic mission. My daughter and I needed to get something done at the local hardware store. We are an all-female household, don't have a glovemaker or any other decent handyman up our sleeves, and have to replace defective shelves ourselves. Even on the way to the hardware store, my daughter said that we didn't have any plywood in the car yet. Why does it smell like formaldehyde and grit anyway? It was the ultra-expensive, Iranian "Gantier", which burned so in the nose. Freshly sprayed on, a real hardware store lockdown surrogate scent.
I think it's an overdose of artificial saffron. That's what it smells like. And I totally sympathize with anyone who finds saffron in perfumes gruesome most of the time. I often feel the same way. Especially when the full blast is popped in.

But on the other hand, I don't want to come across as a synthetic hater. Therefore, a little food for thought on the subject of "aromachemicals".
On 10/14/21, "The Perfume Society" published an interview with Frédéric Malle.
He commented in the context of the launch of his new fragrance "Synthetic Jungle" :
"Interesting perfumery really started at the end of the 19th century, because there were some synthetics available. Perfumery as we know it today has big doses of synthetics, and furthermore, if you want to recreate nature, you need synthetic. I love nature, it needs to be preserved, don't get me wrong, but this idea that everything from nature is great and everything from man is awful is a kind of new fascism".
Clear and definite words from Mr. Malle , especially at the end.
His new fragrance is called "Synthetic Jungle" precisely because he professes synthetic molecules. This is an honest approach.

The "Gantier d'Iran", on the other hand, deludes us into believing that he has used real saffron, which cannot be the case at all. I am extremely annoyed by this marketing ploy. But I have now probably explained enough.
Thanks to the great Gandix, which always provides me with exciting bottlings.
We talked about saffron yesterday and both came to the conclusion that "Safran Troublant" by "L'Artisan Parfumeur" is the most beautiful saffron scent we know. There we are - despite all the differences - finally completely agree.
The Iranian glove maker can really pack against "Safran Troublant"
33 Comments
GschpusiGschpusi 4 years ago
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Extremely interesting. Thanks a lot :-)
TtfortwoTtfortwo 4 years ago
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Oh my dear, what a great essay on saffron. I have "only" a few grams (after all!!!!) of Pushal quality in my house and always get excited about this earthy-bitter highly aromatic fragrance and taste. A favorite spice of mine and - yes! - also a favorite perfume ingredient. Very fond of syntheric.
YataganYatagan 4 years ago
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I guess I would hate him (too).
SiebenkäsSiebenkäs 4 years ago
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Great review, much more than a tease thanks to your fascinating observations on saffron and saffraleine, the power of marketing and synthetics. On top of that a pleasure to read, for this a real delicately spicy-dark saffron cup!
FlorecillaFlorecilla 4 years ago
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A beautiful story about a rather unpleasant fragrance experience. Very exciting, worth reading and - unmistakably you - knowledgeable and authentic. Saffron is an interesting fragrance, it's a shame that the synthetic equivalent performs so poorly. I personally don't mind synthetic fragrances per se, as long as they aren't harmful to health and are produced in a nature-friendly way. I have heard that they are easier to handle for perfumers than natural substances
BloodxclatBloodxclat 4 years ago
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Very exciting on the subject of saffron. Thank you. Since I deal with "the real thing" largely in the kitchen, I always frown on saffron in perfumes first. Saffron tinctures are used in natural perfumery, I suppose. But there everything dyes anyway like sau ?
PonticusPonticus 4 years ago
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Very informative review! I've been avoiding fragrances with saffron, natural or artificial, for quite a while now. They just sting me! I don't like saffron in food either though and this shows me, saffron and I are not going to be friends! Reading about it was very entertaining though!
MonsieurTestMonsieurTest 4 years ago
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Very readable and informative saffron review!
And yes: Synthetics as a controlled form of aroma chemistry is superior to the cult of nature in almost all respects.
(Malle's comparison to fascism in this regard, however, probably belongs to the sillier half of this stupid analogy practice?)
LicoriceLicorice 4 years ago
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Quite a great review from you! I know the smell and taste of real saffron (lovely!). Red threads are already right. Don't give off yellow color until cooked. Except, of course, they shouldn't be plastic. My goodness, how crass! :D Yellow powder is usually just turmeric or safflower, but not saffron. For me, Santal Carmin has a slight saffron note, but only contains turmeric according to the pyramid. :D
ToppineToppine 4 years ago
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You hit it out of the park again, thanks for that. I like saffron only in the paella, which is not real, but the paella looks nice yellow. In fragrances, the substitute can quickly become too much for me, so rather not. Wonderfully explained by you....
JonasP1JonasP1 4 years ago
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Very nice and informative comment! I have my problems with saffron in fragrances too. This one would certainly not be mine :-)
GandixGandix 4 years ago
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A very insightful, emotional review.
HasiHasi 4 years ago
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great comment, dear Gold, as always a highlight! You never told me the story about the student, not even when we talked about saffron ... that's really crass! But your tin is enough for quite a few servings, after you only need 4 to 5 threads (if the instructions are right) :)
ViolettViolett 4 years ago
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Great review. Extremely entertaining and informative. The smell of real saffron is wonderful. Even the "Saffron Troublant" can unfortunately not quite live up to this fragrance, I think. This dream of all DIY store and pressboard fans probably not right ;-)
FlirtyFlowerFlirtyFlower 4 years ago
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I'll leave a cup for this interesting Nightmare before Halloween ;)
MadameLegrasMadameLegras 4 years ago
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As always, very helpful and informative! I have also received red saffron threads before and wondered about both the color and the lack of scent!
ChizzaChizza 4 years ago
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Reminds me of the owner of a US diner who has never been there.
AndrulaAndrula 4 years ago
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As always very informative and interesting written ... me the scent has really overwhelmed , I had to wash it off ... he immediately reminded me of a tincture of our veterinarian , which drove me sharply and violently in the nose ... many thanks but for many beautiful " Iran - pictures " and the info !
BastianBastian 4 years ago
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I have already thought that in fragrances the saffron can actually only be artificial. It is probably, I know, the most expensive spice in the world. Your review was as always great, helpful and authentic. The scent described was a complete disaster
Keep up the good work dear Gold, it's always worth reading your reviews. I know why. Trophy from me.
PolyanthaPolyantha 4 years ago
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Extremely enlightening contribution! For this the saffron cup!
0815abc0815abc 4 years ago
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Hachz,I would love a glove maker with almond eyes too...where was I???
Oh yes!Very informative and nice comment!
SchalkerinSchalkerin 4 years ago
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Very informative, great. There is nothing wrong with synthetic saffron in fragrance either, but not as a bomb. Did you ask the student about the plastic saffron? That's the joke of the year, but a bad one.
Can777Can777 4 years ago
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One of the most beautiful saffron notes for me is still in Black Cashmir by Donna Karan. And we'll leave these alone for now. Great review. Well done!
SalvaSalva 4 years ago
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Very nice post with a lot of personal thoughts on saffron! I am also not now great saffron fan in fragrances, and to the brand or the fragrance here I can also say nothing, because it is unknown to me. A cup I leave but of course there!
PinkdawnPinkdawn 4 years ago
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I can't imagine that the wonderful saffron scent in Baccarat Rouge is synthetic, at that price. I like BR a lot. I would love to try Saffron Troublant sometime.
FvSpeeFvSpee 4 years ago
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90% of saffron comes from Iran? That's exciting. I would have to contribute a fun fact, which is not a lie: My pediatrician at the time, in a small town on the Rhine, was Iranian (at that time they still said 'Persian' here) and was called Dr. Safran. As for the scent, I pull then times Safra leash.
NuiWhakakoreNuiWhakakore 4 years ago
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Very exciting and now I think I know why I've never found saffron in fragrances so great and certainly why I find saffron as a spice absolutely overrated - but that certainly wasn't the real stuff either....
SchatzSucherSchatzSucher 4 years ago
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We've talked about saffron in fragrance before, so I can relate to what you're saying.
I find this note in fragrances all too often extremely unpleasant, much like oud. Saffron Troublant also failed for me. This scent is definitely not for me either.
In the kitchen, on the other hand, I really appreciate saffron.
Turandot I agree, your posts are an asset.
ParmaParma 4 years ago
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Very nice, critical review. I like saffron in perfumes, or at least what I consider to be it (e.g. in Ganymede or Singular Oud - slightly leathery and aromatic-sweet). Fortunately, I haven't had such an impression as described by you yet. That would be in the form also nothing for me.
TurandotTurandot 4 years ago
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Thank you so much for all the info that explains so much to me. Your reviews are enriching every time!
MachicaMachica 4 years ago
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Wow! That was na informative review! Thank you! Was very interesting and exciting to read. Most want everything natural, but you simply can't do that with perfume. Otherwise, the choice of fragrances would be extremely limited. I only know saffron from baccarat and mine is not like that. Your saffron perfume what you called I must test times. Find the still nen hammer that the lady has given you plastic threads :-0 she did not know that herself?
PollitaPollita 4 years ago
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I like Saffron Troublant, too. Even though I'm usually not a fan of saffron in perfume. Mostly I perceive this synthetic saffron as aggressive. Can therefore understand the association of your daughter very well.
FloydFloyd 4 years ago
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Once again incredibly well researched. The fragrance itself I found not soo bad, rather mediocre - not unpleasant... And pyramids are but mostly Gaukelei... what we just Smell so SHOULD... I trust there only the pyramids at 100% natural fragrances...