The last two weeks have been really tough. A fragrance has been celebrated for months, boasting so many notes that one might think it could only be purchased in a liter size, which is also reflected in the price. But no, it's actually "only" 90ml. So I let Malte push me into the shark tank and eagerly awaited the scent package with the olfactory pleasure drops from Dubai. Well, yesterday it finally arrived, and so I write these lines with the best of knowledge and conscience, without being disrespectful. So I sprayed… once, not on paper, but directly on my wrist. This spray landed not only on my skin but directly in my central nervous system, and my olfactory receptors immediately pulled the emergency brake collectively. The words of my wife, uncut and uncensored: “It smells like an underarm after six weeks in a cast.” Because Haibah does something that many luxurious orientals do: it confuses mass with depth.
The top notes don't sound bad at first. Woody notes. Rose. Pineapple. Apple. Freesia. Smoked wood. Leather. Lime. Peach. Bergamot. Pear. Indian basil. Ginger. Saffron. Spicy notes. But my God, why so much at once? The problem is: when everything is loud, nothing is interesting in the end. Some people love to talk about "complexity," as if every second fragrance suddenly became a philosophical work by Dostoevsky. But complexity doesn't mean throwing 48 raw materials on the skin at once and hoping that the brain eventually gives up and simply says "luxurious." True complexity arises from composition. From structure. From transitions. From tension. A good fragrance develops like music (thanks, Devainos). It builds something up, plays with contrasts, leaves space, surprises, calms, escalates in a controlled manner. The fruits in the top notes don't smell fresh or elegant but slightly fermented. A sour-fruity mix of pineapple, apple, bergamot, and lime that desperately tries to simulate freshness while behind it a burning leather camp is already collapsing. My God, this leather, in the top notes. Leather in perfume can be beautiful. Dry, smoky, soft, elegant, dark, warm. It can remind one of high-quality gloves, old bound books, the interior of a classic car, or a jacket. The leather in Haibah, however, smells like a leather jacket in a damp cellar. It has something musty. Something sweaty. And in the midst of this entire chaos, Oud appears. Heavy, dominant, completely incapable of fitting in harmoniously. Oud has become the gold of the perfume world. Everyone talks about it. Everyone automatically considers it profound. And somewhere, a guy is guaranteed to come around the corner and say: “Oud is not for beginners.” Or worse: “Oud is a journey.” No. It is not a journey. Oud is body care with resin. This whole language surrounding Oud has become incredibly clichéd. Oud is often treated like an elitist secret society for fragrance snobs. As if one had to pass an olfactory initiation test to be "ready" for it. But Oud is simply a fragrance material. Sometimes nice, sometimes difficult, sometimes medicinal, sometimes smoky, sometimes soft, sometimes brutal. Nothing more and nothing less. Haibah pretends to be profound, although it is actually just maximally stuffed. Haibah carries everything at once. Fruits. Smoke. Leather. Flowers. Truffles. Saffron. Oud. Musk. Herbs. Woods. Earth. Amber. Rose. More rose. Even more oud. Even more wood. Even more animal. And yes, this animalistic aspect is REALLY remarkable FOR ME. Not in an elegant way. Not "slightly animalistic," which I actually don't have a problem with. There is something dirty in it. Something slightly sweaty and earthy that, together with the leather and the fermented fruits, creates a combination that seriously reminds me of trampled roses next to a rotten fruit crate. The fascinating thing is, however, that despite all this criticism, I completely understand why people love such fragrances. Really, because Haibah is by no means boring. And boredom has become a real problem in the modern perfume world. Many mainstream fragrances, and I don't just mean designers, but also those scents that call themselves ultra-niche, smell today like sterile optimized shower gel fantasies with focus group approval. Everything is clean, pleasing, smoothed out, and so carefully formulated that no one feels disturbed. Fresh and completely exaggerated Ambroxan clouds, sweet vanilla mass production, fruity designer perfumes that become completely interchangeable after exactly twelve seconds. In this context, a monstrous oud beast like Haibah can almost feel liberating, simply because it has personality, but a problematic personality for me, a demanding personality. Haibah has character, a terrible character, but character. I think the problem only begins when fans of such fragrances start to automatically interpret every overload as art. Because not every difficulty is depth. Not every weight is complexity. And not every oud perfume is automatically a masterpiece of oriental fragrance culture. Sometimes a fragrance is simply overloaded, and Haibah is definitely overloaded. It lacks discipline, and that is actually the core of the problem. A good perfume knows when to stop; it knows its limits. It lets individual materials breathe. Haibah, on the other hand, feels like every perfumer in the lab was allowed to add "one more thing" quickly. A bit more smoke. A bit more rose. A bit more oud. A bit more fruit. A bit more leather. A bit more musk. That is no longer fragrance architecture. And yet there are moments, and I mean this very seriously, when Haibah almost works, late… very late. When the aggressive fruits slowly die down. When the smoke becomes softer. When the leather dries, suddenly something interesting comes through. A warm, dark wood-musk accord with remnants of rose and resinous depth. For a few minutes, one suddenly understands what this fragrance might have wanted to be. An opulent oriental signature. Dark. Mystical. Rich. Heavy. But then some musty truffle comes around the corner and destroys everything. And yet I respect the complete uncompromising nature of this fragrance. Taste is strange, and fragrance taste even more so. But that's exactly why one should remain honest. Haibah is not a spiritual revelation. No "journey." No olfactory enlightenment for advanced users. It is simply an absurdly overloaded, animalistic, leathery, fruity-smoky oud colossus with the elegance of a gilded sledgehammer. And perhaps therein lies its strange fascination. Because somewhere between fermented fruits, trampled roses, musty leather, truffle madness, and olfactory receptor apocalypse, something truly peculiar emerges: personality. A demanding, loud, completely oversized personality. But at least a real one. My "journey" ended after about four and a half hours. I think it could have accompanied me for days, with a volume that would have eventually made me deaf. I scrubbed my hands and scented myself with my €8 ultra-niche: "Verveine Cédrat | Jeanne en Provence."
You really speak to my soul with this review. I agree with every sentence. Haibah is unfortunately one of the most terrible scents I've ever smelled. It actually makes me feel disgusted. I feel the same way; it’s like someone tried to mix almost every fragrance note available on the market and sell it as art.
An "experience" I would have gladly skipped. Very strong and honest review. Trophy!
One should perhaps note that fragrances generally contain many more notes than the manufacturer might indicate. It's a bit of a shame that you directly derive an "overload" just because SoD lists more. Most fragrance notes are just subtle nuances that even a master perfumer probably wouldn't be able to pick out individually. I doubt we can either. For example, I don't perceive the leather you described, even though Haibah is one of my most worn fragrances.
"Complexity doesn't mean throwing 48 raw materials on the skin at once."
- No, it really doesn't. However, most perfumes still have far more than 48 ingredients.
"True complexity arises from composition. From structure. From transitions. From tension."
- Exactly! And this is precisely what you find in Haibah. The fragrance is a functioning and harmonious overall composition with various facets.
I don't dispute your opinion that you don't like the scent at all. Taste is subjective, and that's perfectly fine. However, I consider "clinging" to the fragrance notes listed for marketing purposes to be the wrong approach when testing. To me, it sounds like you already had the opinion before the test that "it won't work to pack so much into one fragrance." The fact that you don't like the oud was probably the last nail in the coffin for you to write off the scent.
You do understand that my statements, "Oud is not for beginners" and that Oud is a journey, in relation to your statement here in the review, shouldn't be read as referring to a general olfactory beginner, but rather an Oud beginner, right? And I think most people who express themselves similarly would understand it that way too. It's honestly meant that way and not some elitist nonsense, as you interpret it. The nose gets used to the animalic notes, and what once seemed off-putting becomes enjoyable over time. It's really that simple - and no one should feel offended by it.
Well, maybe we just have a communication or interpretation problem 😅 but your buddy Malte seemed quite sensitive to me with his reaction to my response to your statement. I might have lumped you guys together too quickly. I don’t see it any differently; fragrance should be fun and sweeten your day. I haven’t finalized my thoughts on Haibah yet, but it won’t make it into the top 30 of my own collection. Still, I think it’s a great creation; I don’t perceive it as an overloaded jumble, but rather well intertwined. However, I’m not sure how I would feel about it if my nose wasn’t already used to Oud. The combination with fruits like apple might actually be off-putting for me. But that brings us back to the topic, "Oud is a journey." I stand by that and disagree with you on this point. BUT: as I’ve already said, you don’t have to embark on it.
I'm not fighting against anything, nor do I feel offended.
My main traits are humor, a wink, and living between the lines, and that should reflect in my thoughts and words. I would never personally attack anyone unless they give me a reason to.
For me, perfume is primarily about fun and not my number one priority, and I think that's where the issue lies-many people take this hobby way too seriously and desperately try to build their personality around it, when it should actually be the other way around.
The scent should highlight me, not the other way around.
Oud hasn't been the ultimate thing for a few years now. If you take a look at the Artisans, the most popular scents are often more influenced by musk, ambergris, lotus, and so on. Just check out which Ensar is the most popular here: Iris Ghalia - Iris butter and lotus. The hype around Oud has long passed its peak. There's really no need to fight against that anymore.
Not blind hate, but a well-explained and described personal taste. Respect for trying it out and also for highlighting the positive aspects of the fragrance. Unfortunately, surprisingly many people feel offended by this scent if it's not praised to the skies, and they dismiss well-founded opinions as hate or general dislike and a lack of appreciation for oud. I hope these people don't derive their self-worth from the compliments they receive through their fragrances.
Very good review. And you really try to understand the phenomenon and explain what the scent can do. This makes your review nuanced. Unfortunately, I don't see that nuance in the ticker. I read that Mugler Cologne is being worn. I don't need to test the scent either. It's always good to try out new things and get to know them. But I know what doesn't work for me.
I want to address two points objectively: 1) I generally find it unfair to write a review after testing a fragrance for just one day. I wouldn't wish that even on a Dior Sauvage, and 2) It's worth mentioning that Haibah doesn't have significantly more notes than other fragrances. Ombre Nomade has almost the same number of notes; they just aren't mentioned in the marketing, as is the case with Spirit of Dubai. But Ombre Nomade also has around 200 fragrance notes.
What a shame that whenever there's criticism of "hype" fragrances, they are immediately "defended" to stay in line with the zeitgeist jargon. Let everyone here have their own perception, their own approach to testing perfumes, and their own opinions, as well as the way they express them. Discussing fragrance preferences can only work if we treat each other with respect and don’t insinuate a "wrong" approach and/or perception. Also: It's just perfume.
@gman I'm expressing myself completely neutrally. Chiffre himself wrote that he just sprayed the fragrance yesterday. And it's simply not true that he highlights the many notes of Haibah negatively, because almost every fragrance has that many notes.
Dear @DavidB, why so arrogant? It's great if you like the scent. You can't belittle another user's knowledge. Or even claim that they haven't tested it properly. That's extremely presumptuous and disrespectful to the author of this review. And you've been doing this for two days now!
Additionally, I should mention that there’s no one in my personal circle who engages with perfume in this way. Parfumo offers plenty of space to express everything on your mind, as long as it stays within reasonable limits-this applies to both positive and negative feelings... and everything in between. So, you have to accept that sometimes things might not align with your preferences.
In the end, and I say this repeatedly, you should take it all with a sense of humor; otherwise, this topic can really consume you, especially financially.
No one is forcing you to test a fragrance longer if you don't like it from the first spray. But have you never changed your mind about a scent? Personally, it's happened to me many times that I initially didn't like a fragrance, then smelled it again after several months, and suddenly it was "okay" or even "good." I still remember the first time I smelled Alexandria 2; after that, I didn't touch Oud for 6 months 😅 Now I don't like the scent anymore because all I can smell is rose.
Since I don't like the scent, why should I keep testing it? There's so much to discover, I won't waste my time on things I don't like. Also, I think your comment is by no means objective. It makes me wonder why negative experiences always cause such frustration. Plus, if you read the text properly, you should understand... otherwise, I think it's great that you can wear such scents; I certainly can't.
Cheers to #Verveine Cedrat! I agree with every single one of your well-considered words, even without knowing the scent. That's exactly how I imagine it. There are already too many over-the-top personalities out there, so why spray more on? ...
I also notice that perfumers sometimes confuse mass with depth. For me, that often gives very little or nothing at all; it's just way too dense and leaves me hardly any room to place the scent. Because only with structure does a functioning whole often come together for me. Very relatable review, I enjoyed reading it. After my leg fracture and weeks in a cast from thigh to toe, I'm less interested in a scent that captures the smell underneath it ;) I just whip out my 30cm ruler and try to scratch under the cast somehow 😂 yuck!
Underarm after 6 weeks in a cast? Oh dear! I could only handle two days with a brace for my ankle fracture before I urgently needed to wash and change the inlay. No, that probably wouldn't be my scent. Oud can smell quite funky and cheesy. I prefer those Ouds that remind me of forest floors. But I also struggle with wearing them. So far, only one has made me want to wear it: Tree of Sorrow by Ikiryo. Great review!
Interesting and understandable perspective! I found it to be a bit more harmonious than you did; some others in the collection are definitely more intense. But I totally get your point about the overwhelming overload-I often feel the same way with oriental fragrances.
Wonderful! ... and better this way than actually breaking my arm. I broke my elbow over a year ago, and it's really no fun; it sticks with you for a long time.
Wonderful sentence!
An "experience" I would have gladly skipped. Very strong and honest review. Trophy!
"Complexity doesn't mean throwing 48 raw materials on the skin at once."
- No, it really doesn't. However, most perfumes still have far more than 48 ingredients.
"True complexity arises from composition. From structure. From transitions. From tension."
- Exactly! And this is precisely what you find in Haibah. The fragrance is a functioning and harmonious overall composition with various facets.
My main traits are humor, a wink, and living between the lines, and that should reflect in my thoughts and words. I would never personally attack anyone unless they give me a reason to.
For me, perfume is primarily about fun and not my number one priority, and I think that's where the issue lies-many people take this hobby way too seriously and desperately try to build their personality around it, when it should actually be the other way around.
The scent should highlight me, not the other way around.
Unfortunately, surprisingly many people feel offended by this scent if it's not praised to the skies, and they dismiss well-founded opinions as hate or general dislike and a lack of appreciation for oud. I hope these people don't derive their self-worth from the compliments they receive through their fragrances.
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I meant the scent, not you!
In the end, and I say this repeatedly, you should take it all with a sense of humor; otherwise, this topic can really consume you, especially financially.
Also, I think your comment is by no means objective. It makes me wonder why negative experiences always cause such frustration. Plus, if you read the text properly, you should understand... otherwise, I think it's great that you can wear such scents; I certainly can't.
The thing with the forearm is somehow deeply ingrained in my sense of smell.
Yuck!
... and better this way than actually breaking my arm. I broke my elbow over a year ago, and it's really no fun; it sticks with you for a long time.