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2 years ago - 09/11/2023
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An observation regarding then vs. now reviews

An observation regarding "then vs. now" reviews

There has been hubbub surrounding the politicization of a very popular perfume community.  It has provided Parfumo quite the windfall in terms of growing membership; I found this community nearly ten years ago because a beloved member from that established community found their home here after enduring years of administrative-level harassment.  I've always considered that move quite fortuitous.  The community here is more grounded, more open-minded, possibly more passionate about fragrances and other pursuits.  The functions here predate those of other online fragrance communities, allowing members to have a more active role here on Parfumo and enabling them to express their love of fragrance in really creative and meaningful ways.

All that considered, I've not entirely abandoned my membership in that established community: I made friends over there, I'm established as a swapper, I have my Monthly Perfume Tray Project over there and, more importantly, I've been a member for nearly fifteen years.  It's hard to walk away from fifteen years of anything.  I am finding these things are no longer enough of a reason to be so invested.  I've built a virtual family here on Parfumo, too.  People I love and adore are starting to move over here.  I'm quite invested here.  The blatant prejudices, the covert dog whistles, and the long-standing administrative bullying have presented me with a moral imperativeโ€”chiefly, I needed to migrate my reviews over here.

One thing I did not anticipate in the migration process was the need to update my old reviews.  Initially, I thought I'd do a "cut and paste" of all my reviews.  But I could not do that in good conscience.  My opinions of a fragrance purchased for $20USD in 2011 might have been absolutely glowing but (a.) I've since tested many more fragrances and found said perfume is mediocre at best and (b.) said perfume has been long discontinued and is selling for $325USD on eBay.  Conversely, I've written reviews for fragrances I once loathed but have since learned to love and appreciate.  It's interesting to go back and see where I was in my fragrance journey and compare it to where I am now.

I still have dozens of reviews to migrate over here.  I suppose I'll have something to say that will contradict my initial reviews.  Isn't that the fun of being on this fragrant journey, though?

34 Comments
AnamandyAnamandy 2 years ago
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I don't pay attention to politics. I'm the person who gets up from the table and leaves when politics arises. I just don't want to hear about it, as I know how divisive politics can be. So, no matter where it arises, I don't pay attention to that and redirect my attention somewhere else. Now, after saying all that, while I haven't left the other place, as I have been using both this place, that place, and the other place that starts with a B for years, I have seen a change in the quality of the reviews. A big decline which I find very disheartening as they are often unintelligent, thoughtless, and just plain crude. Like, for example, I don't know what describing a fragrance as a butt wipe adds to a review. I am hoping that it is just a learning curb on these new reviewers' part, but if it continues to go down this path, I think that place is going to lose a lot of their long-term members.
TzapanTzapan 2 years ago
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I understand you and sympathise. Of course we all understood which community you are describing. I recently joined Parfumo and the people here are real people and not smartass pain in the neck. Besides this this other community provides an artificial intelligence pros and cons list which I find totally useless. The members leave comments as if they were competing Beavis and Butthead in malice. There are serious members too, but they pass as invisible among the twisted brained ones.Here you are given the opportunity to write your opinion or write an article about a topic which interests you. And everybody feels free to express themselves and are motivated to write. Writing articles about fragrances helps me feel creative. i am not the best author. The community here is very friendly and civilized. Perfumery is culture and art to me. It leaves a mark, traces of civilization behind it in the passing of time.
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
You're a great author! I'm grateful this community exists so we can share our thoughts and creative expressions based on our love of fragrance. I also love that we can discover each other's talents in an elevated (virtual) space. That's something that isn't readily showcased in other fragrance communities.
HitchslapHitchslap 2 years ago
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I'm strictly Parfumo now, I'll admit, geopolitics is a big reason for this move from Frntica.
I gave up on B*notes when administrative personnel showed unbecoming candor.
I'm surprised more YouTubers don't reference Parfumo, great information here.
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
I feel like it's a matter of time before YouTube reviewers catch on. ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿพ
ExUserExUser 2 years ago
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I've copied over a 1000 reviews/first impressions from my IG to my website and definitely updated a bunch of the more important ones
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
That is an impressive featโ€”you're quite prolific! (I'm a fan.)
GeorgeReidGeorgeReid 2 years ago
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My oldest reviews are approaching two years old, and I'm playing with the idea of updating them now. I can definitely see someone updating a review that is 10+ years old.
Also, not a fan of the other place.
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
If you decide to update your reviews, I'd love to see it.
TomscoTomsco 2 years ago
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Hey,
I love your article, and totally agree with everything you said.
Before I heard of Parfumo, I checked reviews and kept my collection at 'the other one'.
Since my account here on Parfumo, I only check the other one every now and again, just to broaden the look upon some perfumes. Over there I take them more with a grain of salt, though :)
This community over here is great and the website provides many awesome tools and fun and useful updates.
People reading and agreeing: buy them a cup of coffee sometimes (or two or three) if you haven't done that yet! :D
Cheers, Tom
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
Thanks Tom! I agree with you, too. (And definitely buy these guys a cup of coffee if you're able! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ)
Zebra782Zebra782 2 years ago
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Thank you for the insight.
One of the most annoying things I find with fragrance reviews in general is websites allowing idiots and trolls to post reviews the second a fragrance is announced when it hasn't even hit the shelves, they might not like a note or two in it or they might just be doing it for the sake of it creating a negative image and could potentially damage the marketing of a fragrance where people behind it put in a lot of time and effort for people to at least actually smell it and judge it honestly instead of damaging its reputation in its very infancy, which is a great shame...!!!
BrianBuchananBrianBuchanan 2 years ago
Bully for you Zebra, I I I I I I I I I (that's 9 by the way)
Zebra782Zebra782 2 years ago
@BrianBuchanan I don't disagree, leaving a positive or negative review while you haven't actually tested the fragrance for yourself is like you said, a "peevish" thing to do, that's why I never ever depend on other people opinions or reviews when it comes to fragrances I plan to buy, I test and I test and then I test some more, I go to perfume shops frequently and I order a lot of decants to test, my hard earned cash never goes to something I haven't smelled, as it might be "unwearable", lol...!!!
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
I agree. It's a pet peeve for me, too. Chances are, I've already made up my mind about whoever put out the perfume.
Zebra782Zebra782 2 years ago
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@DonVanVliet I know, and it's great ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ
DonVanVlietDonVanVliet 2 years ago
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You'll be happy to know that here at Parfumo the feature to rate and review fragrances is disabled until they're actually out :-)
SopelkaSopelka 2 years ago
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Hi! I am also a recent immigrant from the F***ca site ๐Ÿ˜‚, are we allowed to utter their name?, Athough I have not been a member on Parfumo and am only now discovering all its features, so far I am impressed!
I left the other site because itโ€™s infested by all sorts of bigots, and, as a Ukrainian, I also donโ€™t want to support pro-Putin Russian companies.
What are the best features on Parfumo that you enjoy most?
I hope I can make new friends here and contribute to the conmunity.
Do the admins read these comments? I wonder if a profile, wardrobe and review migration from F***ca can be automated? I get it will help many people like us jump ships.
LempiLempi 2 years ago
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@Sopelka & @Exciter76 ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’‹
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
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@Lempi, thank you for jumping in! Everything you said was perfect! ๐Ÿ’—
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
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Hi @Sopelka! I'm so glad you're here!
Things I love about Parfumo: no balloons to hide your reviews, direct interactions regarding reviews (attached to said reviews), perfume and personal photos, a blog, the option to leave long reviews or short statements, the option to follow members, a friendly forum, a fragrance database built in collaboration with members and the admins, access to admins and so on.
Yes, we can mention that other site but I choose not to give them the attention. We all know who I'm talking about. ๐Ÿคฃ
SopelkaSopelka 2 years ago
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@Lempi thank you so much for your quick response, for the warm welcome and for your support! I will definitely check out the database and will try adding new perfumes.
I hope you have a great day and I look forward to following you :-)
LempiLempi 2 years ago
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*moderator, not moserator, and to, not yo... oops typos... ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ™ˆ It's an early morning here so seems that I'm too tired to write in English ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
LempiLempi 2 years ago
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...IMO the best feature here is that you are able to add a missing fragrance to the database yourself or correct information at the research section! If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, here are lots of friendly people who are willing to help and this is such a lovely warm community. ๐Ÿซ‚โœจ๐Ÿ’–
LempiLempi 2 years ago
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Hi @Sopelka, I subscribed this article so I happened to spot your comment, welcome to Parfumo! ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿฅฐ I wish you will enjoy your stay here darling. ๐ŸŒน I think that @Exciter76 herself is a moserator here so she is a better person yo answer your questions, however I have noticed that mentioning other fragrance databases is allowed here which is great. โ˜บ๏ธ Oh gosh, tell me about it, I for example published several human rights related posts at Fragram about Ukraine and got a warning "stop being political, politics aren't allowed". I said that politics has nothing to do with human rights, politics are questionable but human rights are not but they didn't listen. And a little after that they published "Free Julian Assange" banner themselves, oh sh*t just gimme a break ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿคฆ So glad to get rid of that site soon. I think that unfortunately the migration can't be automated but it would be an awesome feature! ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿ‘ Continues... -->
RingtaleRingtale 2 years ago
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Hi there,
Well I left 'that' comunity for the same reasons and even asked them to remove my account (you can't remove it yourself which I found disturbing also...) and, with that, all my reviews there are gone :-)
But I think it is normal that your initial thoughts about perfumes can change. I noticed my preferences do change with trying new perfumes, with aging and with all kind of circumstances...Nothing wrong with that...!
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
It's been fun to see what I used to think and where my thoughts are now. I'd love to see others do this! I'm nosy!!! ๐Ÿ˜
ElysiumElysium 2 years ago
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Who said it was contradictory to have an idea and then change it? Aside from us having changed compared to perfumes, perfumes have also changed, survived, reformulated. Tastes change, from the opulence of the 80s to the lightness of today. Perhaps the original review no longer fits the recent formula, the fragrance no longer has the same smell, or the same persistence. For the rest, I share your thoughts. I entered this house by chance, while searching for perfumes, I signed up, and I don't know how, I became a moderator. They often ask me for support in German, which I don't know, but thanks to Google Translator I can understand and respond. And I virtually met Chris, aka @DonVanVliet, who I respect and admire, a kind person like few others. Come on, I can't wait to read your reviews!
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
You're absolutely correctโ€”we change, tastes change, formulas change. With all that change, how can our opinions be expected to stay static? I'm more curious about scents where my opinions remain the same.
Like you, I became a mod and got to know @DonVanVliet, who has made this community feel so much more like family. And you're right, thank goodness for Google Translate otherwise I wouldn't be able to help some of our fellow members!
ExUserExUser 2 years ago
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Me too! I have to update them sonitbis good work!!
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
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Thank you so much! I'd love to see your updated thoughts on older reviews. :)
LempiLempi 2 years ago
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I love this article, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, my sweet friend! ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ’• I completely agree about everything you said. I haven't left the other site completely either, I've been a member for nearly 10 years too. I've made tons of lovely friendships there. Yet for the ethical reasons I can't stand supporting that community anymore. I have a zero tolerance for discrimination, racism and bullying. Also I find Parfumo a lot better database and platform exactly because of those reasons you elaborated, everything's much more transparent and open-minded here and the members can contribute more. It's indeed interesting to travel back time and see how opinions on certain fragrances have changed. I also enjoy monthly (and sometimes weekly) trays and I was thinking about writing a blog article about it here. Perhaps Parfumo people would like to have a some kind of rotation project too? It would be so fun. Wishing you a wonderful week darling, I'm so happy that you are here! ๐Ÿซ‚โœจ๐Ÿ’–
LempiLempi 2 years ago
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@Exciter76 My pleasure, sweetheart ๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿค— Hey yay that would be awesome! I'd definitely participate and also I could help you during those months when you feel you're too busy ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’•
Exciter76Exciter76 2 years ago
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Thanks my dearest Lempi! I've been thinking of starting that forum thread here but I know I wouldn't be able to give it the time and responses it deserves. Maybe I'll try it next month, depending on how busy I get?

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