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Vétiver de Frédéric

7.5 / 10 45 Ratings
A perfume by Frédéric Haldimann for men. The release year is unknown. The scent is fresh-green. The production was apparently discontinued.
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Main accords

Fresh
Green
Woody
Spicy
Citrus

Fragrance Pyramid

Top Notes Top Notes
BergamotBergamot LavenderLavender NeroliNeroli
Heart Notes Heart Notes
CedarwoodCedarwood VetiverVetiver PepperPepper
Base Notes Base Notes
FernFern TobaccoTobacco PatchouliPatchouli VanillaVanilla
Ratings
Scent
7.545 Ratings
Longevity
7.034 Ratings
Sillage
6.130 Ratings
Bottle
6.028 Ratings
Submitted by Ghislaine · last update on 05/30/2024.
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Apicius

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Clothes Make the Man
Yes, Homeshopping on TV! Not all you get from there is expensive trash, only most of it. There are exceptions, and one of them was the perfumes by Frédéric Haldimann. They were exclusively distributed some years ago by HS24, a homeshopping channel in Germany. But unfortunately – as we can read on the net – the distributor fell out with the TV channel about the marketing concept. So, we currently have to do without the fragrances of Frédéric Haldimann, who is well known only among homeshopping customers. Some leftover stock may still be available at sales platforms.

The story of my relation to this Vetiver does not have a happy start. A former colleague used to wear it, and he always sprayed himself completely with it. You'd either have had to love him or his perfume in order to share the same room. To make it worse, he was a passionate breeder of pedigree cats, and sometimes Vétiver de Frédéric was not the only scent he came along with.

Nevertheless, I was not put off from Vétiver de Frédéric since it is one of the best! Inspired loosely by the classic style of the current Guerlain-Vetiver, it much better suits a gentleman than a bloke. In its way, it is the opposite to all dark, more explicit masculine Vetivers like Encré Noir or Guerlain's Vetiver Extreme.

Vetiver de Frédéric has less citrus than Guerlain's Vetiver, and this also only in the head note. Most of all it stands out for a complete different stylistic approach: I smell some characteristics of a classic Fougère. I hope, I am not completely wrong with my suspicion, but it reminds me a lot of the latest releases of that fragrance style: Fougère Royal by Houbigant and especially Penhaligon's Sartorial. Like Sartorial, there is this scent of cloth and drapery – I smell tweed, felt, wool – those scents that give you the idea of a tailor's workshop or a gentleman's outfitter. Unfortunately, only very few elements of the scent pyramid have been released but I suspect a good portion of coumarin and maybe tonka bean to be responsible for this.

Vétiver de Frédéric has a dry and powdery side, but without that explicit orris root appeal which the Vetiver by Carven has. I appreciate this aspect as a good balance for the suspected coumarin and/or tonka which might become a bit broad during the heart note. Coming near the base note, Vétiver de Frederic then seems to get a bit more smoky. This Vetiver is a true Eau de Parfum with outstanding longevity – after 24 hours I still find traces of it.

As no other, Vétiver de Frédéric is a fragrance of conservative clothes, but with a special turn. It will not fit to the usual dark blue suit that snooty-nosed young management consultants are made to wear by their bosses. I regard those men as possible customers of Vétiver de Frédéric who use jackets or sack jackets as their daily wear – no matter if it is glen checks, herringbone or pepper-and-salt designs. With a few spritzes of Vétiver de Frédéric one can underline the optical impression of the sports jacket. This fragrant stimulation does not – as it is usual - lead you away towards some specific theme but instead it directly points at this clothing and the person who wears it.

We are used to the fact that people give us impressions of all sort of beautiful things with their perfumes: the freshness of the sea, the murmuring forests, or a green meadow dotted with flowers. Anything – except for the impression of themselves. But we do not always want to be reminded of those beautiful things. Especially in a professional or working environment, such thoughts may be considered annoying.

I think, Vétiver de Frédéric will be connected quicker than other perfumes with its wearer as his signature scent. It is a subtle way to show presence. Apart from the fact that Vétiver de Frédéric is a superbly made perfume, one can see in it the realisation of an alternative fragrance concept.

Hopefully, Mr. Haldimann soon finds a way to present his perfumes to us again.
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Sisyphos

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A Lot of Noise About a Little Vetiver
After the news that Vétiver de Frédéric is being sold again through HSE24 spread like wildfire in the forum a few weeks ago, I was tempted into a home shopping blind buy. The motto was: Never say never - or: No prejudices against prejudices... Yes, you do strange things when you have a bit of an interest in perfume. Normally, this is not my style at all, neither home shopping nor blind buys.

I have my doubts about whether this is a real Eau de Parfum. Judging by the oily film on the skin, I would say probably not. Longevity and sillage are average. I noticed the moderate longevity for an EdP early on, but one must also keep things in perspective: it's not that bad, and VdF does last for half a day. The bottle is indeed rather functional.

VdF gets straight to the point while remaining pleasantly subtle. And that’s exactly what I find successful about this perfume. As a vetiver scent, the whole package is very airy with citrusy additions (neroli), but hardly any spice (pepper, where?). However, it's all not complicatedly constructed. The development of the perfume happens quickly. As a summer office scent, VdF is certainly an alternative. I can also easily imagine it as a sport fragrance. Of course, it works in the office as well. But this is not for salespeople; it's more suited for the back office. VdF can never compete with the market leader Guerlain. Other representatives (e.g., Carven, F. Malle) are, in my opinion, much more appealing.

In some places, you can hear that the fragrances from F. Halidmann improve in longevity over time and sort of mature. I don't believe that. The particles visible in the bottle are also a bit strange. This is not an "eco fragrance." To me, it all doesn’t seem particularly high-quality. VdF can certainly bring joy. Non-herbaceous vetiver is at the center of the scent, flanked by neroli and a very unobtrusive woodiness. VdF is, for some, smart in a certain way, while for others it may seem monotonous or boring. For all who like vetiver, at least a test is worthwhile. You get a versatile vetiver scent with a clear citrus accent. Personally, however, I find it significantly lacking and associated with too many question marks, which is why I parted ways with the fragrance.

In my opinion, VdF cannot live up to the - possibly too high - expectations at all. This is not a super perfume for a minimal price, and an 81 percent rating seems completely exaggerated to me. However, measured by the price-fragrance ratio, it is a somewhat acceptable affair. But nothing more.
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Agathon

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Velvety, My Favorite Summer Fragrance
Admittedly, my experience with perfumes is still quite limited. It really began with the EdP Chanel No. 5 that my wife wished for her birthday. I realized that there are indeed perfumes that remain present even after hours. Shouldn't there be something similar for men?
With years of EdT experience behind me (which quickly "evaporate"), I set out to find EdP for men. In a drugstore, I noticed Dior Homme Intense, tested a spray on my wrist, and was totally thrilled by how such a fragrance develops and how long it lasts. The scent was still perceptible in my anorak days later.

My interest in perfumes was sparked. After two EdP purchases that were more suited for the dark, cold season, I needed something for spring and summer.
By chance, I stumbled upon the comment of my predecessor and was lucky that this FH Vetiver was being offered on eBay. I immediately bought it and eagerly awaited the delivery. It was still new and unused.

But now enough of the preamble.
One spray on the wrist and off we go. First, a cloud of alcohol, but then immediately something fresh and lemony for about 2 minutes. After that, the lemon takes a back seat and makes way for something I have (due to lack of experience) never smelled before. So subtle, so dry-fresh, so velvety, not intrusive, simply elegant. This must be vetiver. And purely vetiver.

I find Vetiver de Frederic suits people who do not want to be judged at first glance, following the motto "Oops, here I come." This fragrance does not shout; it wants to be consciously perceived.
Two sprays under the ears, and you have this scent around you for almost the entire day. Now and then, a scent molecule greets the nose, and you feel pleasantly refreshed.

My favorite fragrance for summer.
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Very humorless, dry woody vetiver. The typical dark grassy note hardly comes through. Flat, slightly bitter-citrusy opening.
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First intensely fresh, then vetiver with a sort of wax polish note. Nothing more happens after that. It leaves me somewhat indifferent.
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Citrusy vetiver at the start, later a spicy-masculine tobacco base. An interesting variation on the theme.
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That was a perfect scent - masculine, spicy, yet still fresh. I really enjoyed smelling it on my husband.
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This FREDERIC is quite a serious fellow; I take him with me when I pay my respects to the seriousness of life - so, quite seriously!
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UngerWooUngerWoo 6 years ago
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So many great vetivers...
Try this one out. "Pays Dogon". The habiscus adds an interesting twist to this wonderful fragrance.

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