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Or de Torrente 2008 Parfum de Toilette

8.2 / 10 73 Ratings
A popular perfume by Torrente for women and men, released in 2008. The scent is spicy-smoky. It is still in production.
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Main accords

Spicy
Smoky
Woody
Gourmand
Leathery

Fragrance Notes

ChocolateChocolate AmberAmber LabdanumLabdanum SandalwoodSandalwood TobaccoTobacco Tonka bean absoluteTonka bean absolute CedarCedar FrankincenseFrankincense LeatherLeather VanillaVanilla CarnationCarnation SaffronSaffron Iridescent ScrewIridescent Screw

Perfumer

Ratings
Scent
8.273 Ratings
Longevity
8.053 Ratings
Sillage
7.258 Ratings
Bottle
7.246 Ratings
Value for money
7.224 Ratings
Submitted by Michael, last update on 10/02/2025.

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jtd

484 Reviews
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ummagumma
The test of a feel-good perfume is versatility. Wear a light dose or douse yourself. Keep it at wrist distance or huff it like poppers. Warm weather, cold weather. Dress it up or go casual. The better feel-good fragrances hover closer to the center of a set of olfactory dynamics rather than at the extremes. It's what makes them versatile and appealing over time. The question is how to make the middle ground interesting.

Amber perfumes have a pitfall: the resinous materials they're built from smell really good. Labdanum, olibanum, tonka, vanilla and sandalwood are considered stand-alone perfumes. The risk, the trap really, is highlighting materials at the expense of composition. Old-school oriental perfumes avoided the hazard by making complex, larger than life scents. Unfortunately, their lavish style makes them a bit rococo for modern use and their orientalist origins weigh them down even more than their dense base notes do. The costume, play-acting cheesiness of orientalism can seem both mannered and childish to the contemporary sensibility. Modern indie amber perfumes have the opposite challenge. They run the same risk as the stoner amber oils of the hippy era from which they derive: oversimplification.

Fazzolari finds a balance point somewhere between the two positions and Ummagumma avoids chinoiserie at one end and oversimplification at the other. While it's clear he looks closely at his materials---his palette---it seems that the materials don't so much drive the composition as provide the medium for Fazzolari to illustrate an idea, in this case how to integrate the classic oriental and the indie amber.

Two examples: First, the way that the creamy, vanillic tones are nested deep in resins is old-school, but by avoiding the rest of the classic oriental’s luggage—the aromatic topnotes, the warm floral bouquet, the heavily accessorized style—Ummagumma taps into the richness of vintage orientals while easily side-stepping the melodrama. Second, the perfume's chocolate is unmistakably gourmand and the note is a nod to the contemporary style of gourmand ambers, but there's a twist. Many modern amber perfumes have discovered the easy link between dessert notes and resinous materials but relying on lazy combinations gives the perfumes a passive quality. The accords might be pleasant but they just lay there. Ummagumma builds a chain of associations and makes the chocolate more than a candy treat at the center of the perfume. Chocolate suggests cocoa, which in turn hints at powder. The bitter powder fuses with the sweet resins and an unexpected dry carnation note to give a hint of animalism that that makes it seem neither traditional nor trendy.

Ummagumma is new territory for Fazzolari. (sort of *) It's a gourmand amber and it's unlike anything else in his line. Most of Fazzolari’s perfumes play with their genres, often using volatile and aromatic topnotes to situate themselves in their genres and then fucking with your expectations once you start to get settled. Fazzolari is able to hold seeming contradictions in place without easy resolutions. He takes advantage of the vibrancy that come from contrasting dynamics, but leaves the debate open, giving the perfumes a touch of friction that makes them so interesting over time. Ummagumma stands between the classic oriental and the indie amber without conceding to either. It's the sort of nuance that distinguishes Fazzolari's work from many of his indie contemporaries and keeps me coming back to his perfumes.
* Ummagumma has definite ties to Cadavre Exquis, a perfume created by Fazzolari and Antonio Gardoni. They used gourmand and resinous accords to create jarring effects. In tone, Cadavre Exquis is miles from the mellow Ummagumma. Comparing the two brings up a question for another day: What happens when you use a similar set of notes to express completely different ideas?

(from scenthurdle.com)
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LastWonder

484 Reviews
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Filthy Spicy Chocolate
This is eating chocolate in a kinky club that used to be a church. Its a dark chocolate spiced that is almost reminiscent of Mexican hot chocolate, its a hot spice almost like chili. There is only the tiniest hint of cream in this chocolate, enough that it isn't bitter. Incense has soaked into the walls and wooden beams of the church. The crowd is wearing rich leather and smoking rich cigars. There are carnations that still grow outside and their scent is light and on the wind. This is a gourmand without being a gourmand and its filthy without being dirty.

This fragrance creates a good scent bubble that is still work appropriate that lasts through the day. It also lasted about 6 hours on my skin, which is just the right amount of time. There are two sizes available a 9ml travel size for $54 and a 30ml full bottle for $135. This is the best chocolate fragrance I've ever tested. I am buying myself a full bottle.
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Quarterback

22 Reviews
Quarterback
Quarterback
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Fall joy
Ummagumma by Fzotic / Bruno Fazzolari is a testament to the art of olfaction, a symphony of spicy-smoky notes that was introduced to the world in 2017. This perfume is a seamless blend of contrasts, much like the transformation from summer’s warmth to autumn’s cool embrace.

The spicy kick of saffron dances with the sweet allure of chocolate, reminiscent of that first sip of hot cocoa on a chilly evening. The smoky tones of tobacco and labdanum intertwine with the woody backdrop of cedar and sandalwood, invoking the image of a crackling fireplace. Gentle whispers of vanilla and tonka bean absolute bring forth the sweetness of autumnal desserts, while leather and frankincense lend a deep, rich warmth that wraps around you like a soft blanket. And just as fall carries with it the delicate bloom of carnations, Ummagumma does not shy away from floral notes, adding a touch of elegance to its robust character.

While my fragrance preferences may have evolved, Ummagumma’s enduring blend of spicy, smoky, woody, sweet, and leathery notes beckon me back every fall. It’s not just a perfume; it’s an olfactory journey through the nuances of a season in flux.
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parfumpixie

353 Reviews
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parfumpixie
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Resinous and ambery abuelita hot chocolate
This opens with a spiced and ambery dark chocolate smell that smells similar to Abuelita Mexican hot chocolate, but it quickly transitions to labdanum heavy smoky and woody scent. You lose the chocolate early on and it dries down to a richly woody, creamy tonka bean, and resinous scent. There’s hints of smokiness there too, but overall a very warm and ambery resinous scent with creamy sweetness underlying
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Ostara

61 Reviews
Ostara
Ostara
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A Gooey, Glowing Ember
Ummagumma opens with a cocoa labdanum accord that is fantastic: resinous, glowing and a bit buttery. As it wears the cocoa dissipates, and the saffron and tobacco roar forward. Eventually it ends with a complex spicy, incensey dry down spiked with a bit of salty leather. It never strikes me as particularly woody. The overall tone is dark and unctuous. For me it's one of the more wearable offerings from the line.
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Such a fun fragrance. Chocolate is used masterfully and balanced by the most gorgeous incense notes. I love this
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11 months ago
2
Chocolate, woody with tonka bean goodness. It’s just sumptuous and sticks around. There’s a weight to it that is luxurious.
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Sweeter/dustier than my preferred style of amber but still lovely! like being in a nice sunlit attic while someone makes cocoa downstairs
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This is a unique, beautiful fragrance. I'm going to enjoy this in the cooler months. Resinous, dark, bold, but not too heavy.
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1 year ago
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It smells like a strange animal that rolled around in chocolate and then had a cigarette . Love it!
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Starts with very dark chocolate and (too) intense labdanum; 10 minutes on skin, it smoothes out & is an intoxicating mix of tonka, tobacco, and resins
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Frankincense in the cathedral
Windows of resin
Walls of chocolate
Dripping over dry tobacco
The wooden benches and the leather tailcoat
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5 years ago
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Quite intense, this incense-chocolate. It makes everything more bitter, spicier. Unfortunately, that's also its weakness - what does the scent want to be?
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Chocolate melt with rum. Smooth & earthy spice. However, for the dessert version, too much incense, too soapy, too floral - better this way!
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The opening is smoky-sweet and I like it at first, but saffron and labdanum become more prominent as it develops. It gets quite herbal.
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