Encre Noire pour Elle 2009

Encre Noire pour Elle by Lalique
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Encre Noire pour Elle is a perfume by Lalique for women and was released in 2009. The scent is floral-powdery. It was last marketed by Lalique Group / Art & Fragrance. Pronunciation
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Floral
Powdery
Woody
Fresh
Spicy

Fragrance Pyramid

Top Notes Top Notes
AmbretteAmbrette FreesiaFreesia BergamotBergamot
Heart Notes Heart Notes
Turkish roseTurkish rose KephalisKephalis OsmanthusOsmanthus SunflowerSunflower
Base Notes Base Notes
White muskWhite musk CedarwoodCedarwood VetiverVetiver

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7.3287 Ratings
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7.3220 Ratings
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6.1202 Ratings
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7.8203 Ratings
Value for money
7.610 Ratings
Submitted by Seglein, last update on 28.01.2024.

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Sternanis

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Top Review 14  
Rest in peace.
Anno 2009:
"Hello, Marketing Department here! Encre Noire is doing well, make one for the ladies!"
"What? Ideas are straight from..."
"Never mind, anything goes with roses!"

When I first asked for "Encre Noire" a felt eternity ago (OK, about 5 years ago), I was told, despite repeated assurances from my side that I really wanted to test the men's version, that this one is on. Or rather: I was attacked with it.
Everything from Lalique was deposited behind the counter inaccessible, and the saleswoman stubbornly refused to spray me with Encre Noire, because it "does not go on women's skin at all" and I "certainly don't want it and just mixed it up". In the course of the discussion, suddenly, without warning, a cloud of Encre Noire Pour Elle landed on my arm.

Well, it's actually not such a subterranean bad smell, but it's not even remotely similar to the original version I was looking forward to all the time, and character and style are completely different EN is (needle)woody, but also earthy, smoky, and so extreme that it seems almost abstract. But only almost. Nathalie Lorson is responsible for some of my favourite scents and I think she has a recognizable style that runs through all scents. Amethyst and Sunlight Lumiere also have this certain amount of detail (but not too much), and a kind of symmetry/asymmetry.

EN pour elle is by Christine Nagel and smells to me like a pastel pink fabric softener with some rose soap (the one from Kattus has a certain similarity, the mild detergent from Domol even more). That's probably OK if you want rose fabric softener - otherwise I just find it meaningless. I would have preferred it to be repulsive, but interesting. Or at least characteristic in a certain direction, with recognition value. A certain sharpness or freshness would have been good for the fragrance in my opinion, this kind of fabric softener musk otherwise only seems flat or oppressive, and the rose itself is anything but angular.

No comparison at all to the men's fragrance - as if no one would have bothered more with the "Flanker" because it's bought anyway (otherwise it's usually the other way around, and I feel a little sorry for the gentlemen who are thrown the umpteenth boring "for men" or "pour homme" version with every new women's fragrance).
And that's actually what annoys me the most. Not that Lalique is launching the 10000000000th rose scent on the market, but that as a customer you are being taken for a fool. (of course you could go a long way to Black Opium and Poison Girl, but I'd rather not do that).
Besides, the original scent would easily go into unisex. Chanel's Sycomore, which is quite similar, is supposed to be for ladies after all.

If the fragrance had a different name and was marketed as a lovely rose scent in a tea service porcelain bottle (and in those old lacquered tin cans with the flower girls instead of in a box :P ), I might be able to find an access to it, albeit a completely different one (Gucci would probably have been able to do that). But that's how it is: sit, 6, theme missed.

Yeah yeah, I know, it's all been written 100 times, but not by everyone ;)

Every time I see it on someone in the collection, I am reminded of the experience in the shop and I get a little jerked up inside. In the wild, I probably wouldn't recognize him at all because he is so ordinary.
Later, since the two fragrances were also available in the village, I tested it a few more times to see if it still convinced me or if my memory was distorted somehow, but my nose never got further than "rose softener". I certainly don't smell more vetiver here. That's why I spare you all imaginary scent pyramids.

The text here was written in an original, rudimentary version over two years ago, and my impression has not changed.
By the way: There are some really well scented everyday products (as I learned here at Parfumo, there must be a lot of toilet stones among them), but this kind of rose scent is not one of them in my opinion. It's just sucked out, over.
Perhaps there are some rose fabric softener fans who find their favourite fragrance perfectly embodied in this very fragrance. I'd rather buy the Rose Deodorant from Fa instead
In fairness, at least nothing stinks here. Actually something should always stink after such an attack on my olfactory self-determination, but it doesn't. I can't hate the smell or find it disgusting, just boring. So I'm not surprised that it was discontinued, as it happens with most flankers after a few years.
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Profuma

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Top Review 13  
Encre blanche
My impression is the same as it was two years ago. No black. No dark either. Medium? Not even close. What I see is a white sheet of paper with white ink written on it.

At first glance there is nothing to see. Questioning glances when you pass the blank and immaculate sheet of paper with the request to read it. A song and a film come to my mind, which in their titles reflect what people with imagination could see on this seemingly empty page.
"White Horses in the Snow" and "White Bird in a Blizzard" But on this piece of pure white paper there are no horses in the snow. No bird in the blizzard. There is another story.
To do this, you hold the page against the light and it reveals itself to the person who does this instinctively, because he immediately assumes that you are not simply putting a seemingly empty page in his hands to read. For him there must be more behind it. And there does...
I imagine myself having the same idea. But I go one step further, because I am the fantasy man and I see more and expect even more.
So I spray the snow white side with Encre Noire, let it absorb the scent molecules and go to the window in the meantime. Where a ray of sunlight passes through the window pane, I hold it against the light. As if by a ghostly hand, individual outlines and finally entire shapes can be seen. Only slightly lifted from the white, as if I was looking at a white silhouette in the sun through frosted glass.
The story on the sheet may tell of love and longing, longing for faraway places and homesickness, to embrace and let go. A story without corners, edges and thorns. Simply of feelings and impressions. Everybody who holds the sheet in his hands will get to read a different story.

In mine, the white fairy Bergamota dances, flapping her wings over white meadows, a wreath of bleached freesias around her curly white head. The little fairy's own scent, which gives her her name, is strong and immediately covers the whole leaf with freesias several centimetres thick. A slightly citrusy, fresh note of bergamot is able to assert itself now and then, yet the duo stays close together and dictates the story from beginning to end. A few flaps of the wings over the page and the fairy reaches a dense rose head into which she lets herself fall with a giggle. Immediately they catch the petals and wrap the little body in their beguiling scent. Bergamot, freesias and the rose are in themselves a very powerful combination, which can be too tiring for some noses. Therefore caution is advised when dosing. These three components make up the main fragrance for me. Almost innocent and pure, but still strong, densely interwoven and yet soft. On the edge I notice a minimal wood note, some vetiver and musk. But these play only small roles on the sheet of paper, as in my perception. I perceive Encre Noire as a clean, elegant and very feminine fragrance. Closer to classic than youthful features, or at least somewhere in the middle, but with a tendency towards the classic side. A fragrance after the bath, for going out, for a cultivated get-together or simply in everyday life, when you want to treat yourself to something special. Granted, there are similar fragrances and I deliberately say only "similar" and not "same". Because Encre Noire has a little twist in it, which gives it a recognition value after all. I could imagine that this is due to the vetiver. Without this slightly bitter-tangy-green note, the fragrance would be one of many rose waters and underneath it would be hard to distinguish. You have to like roses to succumb to the dance of the fragrance fairy on paper. It's a successful balance between rose and the pair of bergamot and freesia. All of them are very close to what I can bear, I must say, and there are days when I can't let the fairy dance.
But when I'm "in the Mood", the story on the blossom-white sheet of paper is just beautiful and fairytale.

Written with Encre Blanche...

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Farbenduft

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Helpful Review 11  
What women write
My sweetheart used Encre Noir Extreme. A weighty, somber, serious fragrance. The aura of an ancient library with its blackened wooden shelves, full of thick book volumes as big as chests, soaked with the knowledge of immortal scholars coagulated into ink. What a fragrance, almost awe-inspiring! I found it magnificent. And when I discovered that this fragrance was also available "Pour Elle," I had to have it.

Outwardly, the men's and women's bottles stand in unison on the shelf: geometrically simple in shape, both black as two ink glasses. But olfactorily they write completely different stories. I expected a softer, more floral version of the woody men's scent. But the perfumer has allowed "Elle" something independent: no more and no less than an interpretation of what women write.

Encre Noir pour Elle - the ink glass is adorned with an airy, curved handwriting. And as black as the flacon is - the fragrance is not. Gently he takes me into a sunny friendly chamber somewhere in the country, somewhere in the timeless.... A chest of drawers with laundry fresh off the line, wallpaper with friendly floral patterns that seem to lightly perfume the room. Through the open window, the delicate breeze of roses wafts in from the midday-warm garden, far from being campy. It's quiet except for the rustle of grasses in the breeze. And there she is, a gentle, restrained woman at her dainty desk. Pensive, her gaze passes through the window into the distance, casually enjoying the scent of the roses. Just then she opens the small drawer and takes out a small bundle of letters. A light scent like papyrus comes to her as she pulls the almost transparent paper from the crackling envelope and unfolds it. Thoughtfully she reads the precious words one more time, lets them affect her mind, feels the connection in the lines. Thoughts rise up. Slowly words form in her mind, sweet and familiar, as without haste, she readies a sheet of paper and slowly opens the ink jar. Today she has arrived at the mood to open her heart. The memory drifts to the summer days she will tell the friend, the friend, of her feelings, of what moves her without imposing. She takes up her pen. Now she perceives only the scent of the paper, dry and bright. She dips the quill into the ink and begins to write.

What would women write in black ink? Encre Noir's answer: letters to a person of the heart, confidential messages, perhaps delicately perfumed, simple, poetic and very personal.
For me, a successful, discreet rose-paper fragrance, which I have worn with pleasure... and now, unfortunately, must probably also say goodbye.
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Sleuth

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Very helpful Review 5  
First impression
My first impression of Encre Noire Pour Elle: To my nose this perfume consists of approximately 40% rose, 30% musk, 20% vetiver and 10% other things. It has a 'serious' rose, but not a funeral rose, that is smoothed by pleasant musky notes. The smoothness reminds me of the smooth base in Jour d'Hermès and Voyage. The musky notes make it more feminine, but a guy can wear this fragrance.

Perhaps the best reason to read these reviews is to find out more about the vetiver. It is not like Guerlain's or Tom Ford's. But I smell the vetiver from Encre Noire Pour Homme, a relatively warm vetiver. Encre Noire Pour Elle has this vetiver in moderate-to-small amounts.

In the heart, a fruity osmanthus peeks out a little, making the composition more interesting. Summarized: Take, for example, one of the musky rose scents from Narciso Rodriguez. Well, Encre Noire Pour Elle is the more interesting, prettier sister of the Rodriguez perfume. Looking for a rose? Try this one.
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jtd

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jtd
Very helpful Review 4  
snow-blinding floral
If I were to give Encre Noire pour Elle a Sanchez/Turin-style two-word fly-by, it would be boozy detergent. Despite the apt but snipey sounding description, there are aspects of ENpE that I appreciate and like. Categorically it’s a musky, woody floral---an enormous field. In spite of the common pedigree, though, it’s clever. The various floral elements (rose, osmanthus, freesia) come together to strike one metallic note. The wood is cedar, and I suppose is a nod to the cedar-like vetiver of the original Encre Noire, but I don’t in fact smell vetiver. The musk sews it up. This is not a luscious, round, fruity or animalic musk. Not soft, not cuddly. It is glaringly bright, a bit harsh and utterly desiccates the florals. The dewy, fruity aspects of rose and osmanthus, and the delicate sweetness of freesia are obliterated by the musk. When magnified by the musk, the flowers become a floral eau de vie, giving that double-distilled, blanched feel.

A few points. 1) Unlike the original, ENpE does smell like ink. 2) Noire? This is so bright I see spots. 3) To make the first in a line a masculine but without a gender descriptor in the title is fine. Then to use the name of the original, adding “pour Elle” the same way one would add “light,” “fraiche,” or “sport" makes it a flanker. My issue, though, is that by extension, a woman is presented as a flanker to the universal-since-unnamed man. This boy/girl thing is only interesting if there is a twist---imagine the Rochas flanker Femme pour Lui.
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7.5
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7.5
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Bordeaux-colored and heavy rose with a creamy note.
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