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7.0 / 10 263 Ratings
A perfume by Etat Libre d'Orange for women and men, released in 2006. The scent is leathery-spicy. Projection and longevity are above-average. It is still in production.
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Main accords

Leathery
Spicy
Smoky
Synthetic
Woody

Fragrance Pyramid

Top Notes Top Notes
Frankincense Orpur®Frankincense Orpur® SafraleineSafraleine Black pepperBlack pepper
Heart Notes Heart Notes
LeatherLeather Cistus absoluteCistus absolute Orris absoluteOrris absolute
Base Notes Base Notes
Patchouli Orpur®Patchouli Orpur® Vetiver Orpur®Vetiver Orpur® Tree mossTree moss

Perfumer

Ratings
Scent
7.0263 Ratings
Longevity
8.6199 Ratings
Sillage
8.2186 Ratings
Bottle
7.2170 Ratings
Value for money
7.484 Ratings
Submitted by DonVanVliet, last update on 08/31/2025.

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Reviews

15 in-depth fragrance descriptions
jtd

484 Reviews
jtd
jtd
Top Review 10  
Ain't No Thing
Rien is a leather, yes, but what constitutes a leather note in perfumery is often vague. ‘Floral’ and ‘woody’ are broad categories as well. Yet we make distinctions in florals (by species: jasmine, tuberose, lily; descriptively: bright, orchestral, indolic) and woods (by tree: sandlewood, cedar, birch; qualitatively: grassy, earthy, milky.) Even a genre as vague as ‘green’ lets us specify by ingredient (galbanum, neroli, vetiver) and by attribute (fruity, resinous, bitter.) For leathers, we might point to the ingredients of rectified birch tar or isoquinolones, but in general we’re usually just loosely descriptive, often to the point of obscurity. Smokey, tarry, rubbery, ‘like the inside of a purse,’ suede-like. Suede-like? We might as well say carpet-like. Evocative, yes, but this terminology doesn’t give us a lot of analytical range.

What are the actual differences in the leather characteristics of Knize Ten, Cuir de Russie, Carillon pour un Ange, Azurée, Habit Rouge? I have no answers, but am curious.

But Rien is a bit different. It uses a combination of ingredients that each gives a slightly different angle on the qualities of dryness, dustiness, inkiness, metal, bitterness. It suggests the scent of a thick leather motorcycle jacket. Incense, cistus, cumin, styrax, aldehydes. Find the wrong angle on any of these components and Rien could have been a muddle if not a mess. As it turns out, though, (and here I fall prey to dim descriptions of the leather genre) Rien is a gorgeous, sharp, harsh leather. Distinctive, striking, beautiful? Utterly. Pretty, cozy, something Sephora has trained its customers to like? Not by a long shot.

Etat Libre d’Orange doesn’t target the mainstream perfume buyer, and thus avoids the sort of fragrance that a good few might like and an even larger number won’t actually mind. For the complaints, valid or not, leveled against niche perfumery (pretension, dilettante exclusivity, smugness) Rien is a beautiful example of the effectiveness of a well-curated line and risk-taking. In addition, it is no more expensive than many designer releases.

Rien is a terrific perfume, and perhaps more importantly, an example of a creative, successful strategy by a niche house.
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sebjar

55 Reviews
sebjar
sebjar
Very helpful Review 5  
Etat Libre D'Orange Rien vs Rien Intense Incense
Here's a comparison video I have been meaning to do. An Etat Libre D'Orange Rien vs Rien Intense Incense comparison video. This is to compare the differences of Etat Libre D'Orange Rien vs Rien Intense Incense. If you know one or the other or both or neither of the Etat Libre D'Orange Rien and Rien Intense Incense it's time to find out or just watch to see what both Dalya and I think of both Etat Libre D'Orange Rien and Rien Intense Incense.
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7
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7
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10
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7
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Kurai

388 Reviews
Kurai
Kurai
Helpful Review 9  
Abstract leather
In an interview, Antoine Lie once described himself as an abstract perfumer rather than a minimalist or realist.

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"I try to transport people to something more physically emotional than to a typical place. It should transport you to different state of mind or places you’ve never been to…"

ELdO's Rien is a great showcase of this mindset. It is not a typical realistic leather. It does not resemble a biker's jacket or a cowhide, nor does it teleport you to any place - be it a church, a barnyard or a garden.

Despite the common note setup, this is far from the usual smoky leather or the way too common leather-iris combinations of today. Instead, you get a raw experience with dusty dry smoke and rough metallic angles. Harsh and uninviting, even industrial sometimes, without compromise.

As a 'wearable perfume' maybe a bit of a challenge, but very compelling overall. Also a good example of how one's perspective is changed by the (assumed) understanding of the perfumer's intentions. If this was introduced as a mainstream alternative without any context, it may have been bashed to death.
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Tinctureall

94 Reviews
Tinctureall
Tinctureall
Very helpful Review 5  
Dry and uncompromising after a warm start
Opens with medicinal tuberose like florals, like a mixture of powdery lavender, nutmeg and vanilla. A warm enveloping scent a bit like a floral cough lozenge. A soaring note I cannot place keeps this from being fusty but only just. It's like opening a dusty broom cupboard where all the polishes are kept. The florals are not really flowers but belong in a way as they do to wood polish such as lavender, pine and woody citrus.

The flowery side recedes and the polish/wood/resinous note gets more pronounced and veers towards leathery boot polish instead. Just like sticking your nose into a pair of brand new and recently polished boots. This morphs again into uncompromising dry leather woods like a strong norimbanol with a light touch of sweetness like vanilla behind. Quite manly at this stage reminding me of a Nasomatto woody dryness. If you like those, then you might very well like this.

All of this is fairly pleasant but quite strange. It doesn't strike me as even trying to be a perfume. More an experience. On paper it retains much more of the floral notes but still remains fairly like leather polish to my mind.

(I'm blind testing a series of ELdO samples, so these reviews are from nose notes.)
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Oregonclaire

19 Reviews
Oregonclaire
Oregonclaire
Helpful Review 6  
The Opposite of Nothing
Funny story - the first time I smelled Rien was in a boutique that had a small selection of ELdO, fully expecting it to be some light, airy thing, based on the name (knowing very little about ELdO the brand, of course). Upon sniffing the blotter, I think I physically stumbled backwards - this stuff packs a wallop, especially if you are expecting "nothing." Realizing the joke was on me, I promptly sprayed it on my wrist, walked down to a coffee shop, drank a latte, and went back to buy it. This was almost 15 years ago, and it's still in my top 5 scents to wear.
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OPomoneOPomone 10 years ago
7.5
Bottle
7.5
Sillage
10
Longevity
9
Scent
Antoine Lie at his best.
Saturnine beauty, clashing voluptuousness, convulsive poetry.
Les Chants de Maldoror in a square bottle.
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CeesieCeesie 26 days ago
8
Bottle
8.5
Scent
Industrial gasoline-like leather, almost smells like burnt rubber. A floral aroma far away in the back.
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HugoMontezHugoMontez 2 years ago
8
Bottle
8
Sillage
9
Longevity
9
Scent
Great and unique leather scent composed by Labdanum, iris and some bitterness from saffron and moss. Austere but weirdly comforting. 4/5
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TheDunkPapaTheDunkPapa 1 year ago
9
Bottle
7
Sillage
7
Longevity
8.5
Scent
Kind of a strange mix of fizzy aldehydes with bright, citrusy incense and suede, velvety leather. Greater than the sum of its parts.
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FantasmargFantasmarg 3 years ago
6
Bottle
9
Sillage
9
Longevity
7
Scent
Everytime I smell this, I remember I love it. Warm effervescent incense, a tad sweet. Autumn, dark, wool scarf. Very long lasting and strong
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TviesoTvieso 1 year ago
6
Bottle
8
Sillage
9
Longevity
9.5
Scent
Strong amber, aldehydic opening drying down to warm incense with a subtle hint of dirtiness. Incredibly unique, strange and intoxicating.
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Ch03npCh03np 1 year ago
Smoky, ashy, dusty aldehydes similar to New Look but somehow more demented and cigarette-like. Addictive but also not exactly appealing. Hmm
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SampppSamppp 2 months ago
Patchoulish incense with alot of woody notes-little leather and maybe some bit of iris. A little fizzy. nice and Balanced overall
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JacksonjacksJacksonjacks 7 months ago
7
Bottle
8
Sillage
8
Longevity
9
Scent
Odd and beautiful. At first you’re smacked with woody resins, but that gradually dries down to the most creamy Iris leather accord. A journey for sure
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OceanCliffsOceanCliffs 2 years ago
Not what I expected based on reviews - smells exactly like a hippie shop. Incense, crystals, etc.
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