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Cologne instead of Corona, No. 13: Consult a doctor immediately upon contact with mucous membranes.
As firm as an iceberg, I was determined to like this scent, if only because it leads such an underdog existence in the 4711 galaxy, not to mention the fragrance universe as a whole. Eight owners, one comment. Plus the trashy appearance. And that even 4711 seems to be ashamed to sell the fragrance.
I first consciously saw it in January 2020 in the high-end perfume department of a Bangkok luxury department store, where it was presented by slightly aloof and naturally very beautiful saleswomen at its own 4711 stand, amidst tables of French and Italian niche perfumes. By the way, at this stand, besides "Ice," there was only the classic 4711 Regular, which is revered in Asia (either it doesn’t have grandma status there, or it is precisely that cult status due to the reverence shown to old people in Asia), and not any Acqua Colonia, remix, or Nouveau nonsense.
After returning to Germany, I tried to order it through the 4711 online shop, but lo and behold, no chance. Is "Ice" only produced for foreign markets? Thankfully, I still managed to get a sample from here, as traveling to Thailand is currently quite difficult anyway.
The first test was a shock. Freshly showered and therefore with a reduced acid mantle on my skin, I happily doused myself with "Ice," not splashed, but bravely sprayed, and within seconds I felt like the frozen schnitzel in the Toppits commercial from the early 90s. The fellow grave-dwellers will remember: "Gääääfrieeeerbraaaand!". The stuff apparently contains menthol oil, eucalyptus, or JHP-Rödler in such a concentration that one must fear frostbite of at least the second degree. Perhaps they also added pepper, acid, or a universal allergen, because beyond a certain intensity, the skin can no longer distinguish between cold and heat irritation.
This also explains why the Thais seem to handle it so well, because after showering or bathing, when we apply lotion, they like to use a kind of baby powder to dust themselves, although I wouldn’t recommend this type of powder for babies, as it (probably due to menthol) also achieves such a brutally cooling effect that it certainly cannot be without side effects. The stuff is definitely recommended in extreme heat; best to try the brand: "Snake Brand Prickly Heat," available as "Classic" or, I like even better: "Lavender".
But back to "Ice." The scent aspect has nothing to do with the traditional 4711, not even, as claimed here, in the top note. The rather pretty bergamot note at the beginning does not evoke grandma summer at all. Very quickly, the very specific ice note pushes to the forefront, where one must think less of the ice candies that are also characterized by a certain sweetness than of the guaranteed sugar-free, sharp medicinal "Wick Blau," which Serafina rightly associates in her statement.
The vertical line "violet, peach, musk," which in the fragrance pyramid suggests some gentle counterbalance, I do not perceive at any time. These cuddly ingredients may serve to ensure that this ice does not become so zero Kelvin cold that the bottle freezes and shatters. Because while waiting for something soft like Godot, one wonders where this indeterminate gray, dry, hard note comes from. It leads after just a few minutes to the third stage of the fragrance development, which I find knotty, woody, and biting strict. Before looking at the fragrance pyramid, I thought of some unfriendly vetiver (against which I often have repulsive reactions). When you read "cedar" in the base, you know where the pencil-saturated wind is blowing from.
The scent clings to the skin, I wanted to write, for about one and a half to two hours; the cooling effect is massive for the first thirty minutes, then still quite noticeable.
A second test (lower dosage and on slightly sweaty, not sensitively showered skin) leads to a less shocking cold experience, gentler transitions, and generally a more subdued scent development, including the perception of a very herbal-woody lavender note. Otherwise, nothing changes.
Although my initial sympathy for this "Ice" has not completely frozen, it is certainly not something I would wear at the moment. Should the sample not have moved on by then, I will try it again at 40 degrees. The fragrance is definitely recommended for Thais far from home, as a promotional gift from the company Faber-Castell, as well as for sports doctors on the football field.
Floyd and Stanze, these were stylistic tributes to you, not plagiarisms!
I first consciously saw it in January 2020 in the high-end perfume department of a Bangkok luxury department store, where it was presented by slightly aloof and naturally very beautiful saleswomen at its own 4711 stand, amidst tables of French and Italian niche perfumes. By the way, at this stand, besides "Ice," there was only the classic 4711 Regular, which is revered in Asia (either it doesn’t have grandma status there, or it is precisely that cult status due to the reverence shown to old people in Asia), and not any Acqua Colonia, remix, or Nouveau nonsense.
After returning to Germany, I tried to order it through the 4711 online shop, but lo and behold, no chance. Is "Ice" only produced for foreign markets? Thankfully, I still managed to get a sample from here, as traveling to Thailand is currently quite difficult anyway.
The first test was a shock. Freshly showered and therefore with a reduced acid mantle on my skin, I happily doused myself with "Ice," not splashed, but bravely sprayed, and within seconds I felt like the frozen schnitzel in the Toppits commercial from the early 90s. The fellow grave-dwellers will remember: "Gääääfrieeeerbraaaand!". The stuff apparently contains menthol oil, eucalyptus, or JHP-Rödler in such a concentration that one must fear frostbite of at least the second degree. Perhaps they also added pepper, acid, or a universal allergen, because beyond a certain intensity, the skin can no longer distinguish between cold and heat irritation.
This also explains why the Thais seem to handle it so well, because after showering or bathing, when we apply lotion, they like to use a kind of baby powder to dust themselves, although I wouldn’t recommend this type of powder for babies, as it (probably due to menthol) also achieves such a brutally cooling effect that it certainly cannot be without side effects. The stuff is definitely recommended in extreme heat; best to try the brand: "Snake Brand Prickly Heat," available as "Classic" or, I like even better: "Lavender".
But back to "Ice." The scent aspect has nothing to do with the traditional 4711, not even, as claimed here, in the top note. The rather pretty bergamot note at the beginning does not evoke grandma summer at all. Very quickly, the very specific ice note pushes to the forefront, where one must think less of the ice candies that are also characterized by a certain sweetness than of the guaranteed sugar-free, sharp medicinal "Wick Blau," which Serafina rightly associates in her statement.
The vertical line "violet, peach, musk," which in the fragrance pyramid suggests some gentle counterbalance, I do not perceive at any time. These cuddly ingredients may serve to ensure that this ice does not become so zero Kelvin cold that the bottle freezes and shatters. Because while waiting for something soft like Godot, one wonders where this indeterminate gray, dry, hard note comes from. It leads after just a few minutes to the third stage of the fragrance development, which I find knotty, woody, and biting strict. Before looking at the fragrance pyramid, I thought of some unfriendly vetiver (against which I often have repulsive reactions). When you read "cedar" in the base, you know where the pencil-saturated wind is blowing from.
The scent clings to the skin, I wanted to write, for about one and a half to two hours; the cooling effect is massive for the first thirty minutes, then still quite noticeable.
A second test (lower dosage and on slightly sweaty, not sensitively showered skin) leads to a less shocking cold experience, gentler transitions, and generally a more subdued scent development, including the perception of a very herbal-woody lavender note. Otherwise, nothing changes.
Although my initial sympathy for this "Ice" has not completely frozen, it is certainly not something I would wear at the moment. Should the sample not have moved on by then, I will try it again at 40 degrees. The fragrance is definitely recommended for Thais far from home, as a promotional gift from the company Faber-Castell, as well as for sports doctors on the football field.
Floyd and Stanze, these were stylistic tributes to you, not plagiarisms!
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