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7.6 / 10 21 Ratings
A new perfume by Atelier des Ors for women and men, released in 2024. The scent is spicy-gourmand. It is still in production.
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Main accords

Spicy
Gourmand
Sweet
Oriental
Woody

Fragrance Notes

CardamomCardamom CocoaCocoa

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Scent
7.621 Ratings
Longevity
7.717 Ratings
Sillage
7.017 Ratings
Bottle
8.123 Ratings
Value for money
5.315 Ratings
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The fragrance is part of the Abstraction collection.

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NicheOnly

122 Reviews
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Mainstream is still miles behind indie
Another review for a 2024 launch, Cocoa Kimiya was one of two 40% Extraits released by French house Atelier des Ors in the Abstraction collection. With high concentration and a €400/100ml price tag come high expectations. Unfortunately, this product fails to deliver on almost all counts.

The scent opens with mild medicinal ambers, a somewhat unexpected twist from a fragrance that only lists cocoa and cardamom within the scent's pyramid. There's no initial evolution to it either - no other accords kick in prior to me smelling it on-skin which is where I do get the first touches of cocoa/chocolate. The fragrance instantly reminds me of Serge Lutens' Bornéo 1834 with the same structure of woodiness and chocolate, albeit with a contrast of oriental ambers. While I haven't smelled it, it is probable that there might also be some overlap with another Serge Lutens chocolate scent, that being Veilleur de Nuit. Much like with the opening profile, there isn't any evolution on-skin either as the scent retains this woody-chocolatey feel throughout the wear. That wear is actually a very short-lived one with the performance on this fragrance being outright poor - longevity in the 5 hour range on mostly intimate sillage. While the scent is still noticeable 8 hours in with a sandalwood-cocoa one-two, reminiscent of scents like Mystic Experience and Sand Dance, I am not one to give out participation trophies for longevity that is there strictly if I put my nose against it.

The biggest takeaway from Cocoa Kimiya is that chocolate/cocoa as a note within mainstream niche fragrances still has a clear ceiling. Scents like Cocoa Kimiya, like Bornéo 1834, Écrin de fumée, Sand Dance or even "Symphonium | XerJoff" are miles off market-leading indie competitors like Slumberhouse's Ore (2022) and the complexity brought by scents like Ore are unmatched without even mentioning the blending of the product itself. Make no mistake, a 40% Extrait with this type of price tag should be competing with a scent like Ore. However, the gap between a scent like Ore (2022) and Atelier des Ors' Cocoa Kimiya is huge just based off product alone without even mentioning the price, the valuation and the performance, with the AdO only winning on availability.
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Exigi

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Exigi
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Cardamom Kimiya
Cocoa Kimiya delivers what it promises but it should be called cardamon kimiya. It's cocoa and cardamom all the way through, with cardamom dominating most of the experience. Promising only two notes, it's still rich and complex and really, really good. Definitely unisex.

The opening is a burst of fizzy cardamom with a hint of cocoa. The cardamom slightly softens in the dry down and the cocoa is somehow there. After an hour or so, I get a leathery-powdery cocoa note that is sweeter and gourmand-er. Cardamom is still present and dominant, though.

It lasted 6-7 hours on my clothes, but the projection dropped significantly in the first two.
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3
Medicinal amber open before drying more chocolatey. Oriental throughout w/ good blending, but EXTREMELY light. Compare to SL's Borneo 1834.
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Gorgeous, rich gourmand! One wouldn’t normally expect patchouli in a gourmand to work so well, but here it does! Sweet but not cloying.
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Great cardamom and maybe some cinnamon cacao and patchouli. Sounds gourmand isnt overtly so. U have to wait for a few seconds to settle.
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11 months ago
Cardamom bomb, vintage leaning. Faintly in the background, I detect patchouli, orange rind, and… oud? Linear. Settles down close to skin.
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Bittersweet is the last sip of dark cocoa
Illuminates me with chili and cardamom
I read vanilla patches at the bottom of the sandalwood chalice +
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1 year ago
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Here too: the name says it all. Bitter cocoa with cardamom. Cardamom hits hard at first, then softens and becomes more cocoa-heavy. Sillage and longevity are good.
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12 months ago
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You have to get through the Maggi top note; after that, it resembles my beloved "10 Aomassaï | Pierre Guillaume." But it takes a while :(
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Natural cocoa, untreated, picked fresh from the tree and ground. Cardamom for a bit of contrast. When simple is just beautiful.
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Chocolate-patchouli with a good dose of cardamom. In the dry down, the cardamom steps back and a tonka bean cuddles up to me.
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14 days ago
Smells more like curry powder than cardamom and cocoa.
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